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#620496 - 12/18/06 03:25 PM MT Hood Continued
fern Offline
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This is a closed thread, the second of two relating to the recent search on Mt Hood. This thread is not open to comment or additions, but is kept at the top of the forum as a source of information and chronology for those interested in events and research.

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I am locking the other thread due to it getting to an unmanageable length. Please continue here. Same rules.
old thread click here


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#620503 - 12/18/06 03:31 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: fern]
hoodie Offline
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Registered: 01/18/06
Posts: 30
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In case anyone is curious what its like to be just above the Pearly Gates while a Chinook is hovering just above the summit, check this...

Hang on Iain!!



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#620504 - 12/18/06 03:31 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: fern]
Christy Offline
n00b

Registered: 12/18/06
Posts: 31
TRs: 0 Photos: 0
Loc: Canada
Hi all- I'm new here...have been following this and found you guys after a referral from the media.

Was just reading the Wikipedia entry on Mt Hood and it says this: "On December 18, 2006, all three climbers that were missing are now confirmed dead. Yesterday from the above date, they found Kelly James' body. The next day the others were dead after falling down the slope. This is very tragic and everyone is extremely sorry for these three families".

The last i heard, the sherriff had announced that they *may* have fallen. Can anyone confirm this (None of the news sources are showing anything like this), or is Wikipedia off it's rocker?


Edited by Christy (12/18/06 03:33 PM)

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#620508 - 12/18/06 03:33 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: Christy]
Lambone Offline
spray'prentice

Registered: 04/10/01
Posts: 4572
TRs: 1 Photos: 46
Loc: Mt Icculus
"hi mom"

hahah, classic, that looks scary!

wiki is whacked

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#620511 - 12/18/06 03:36 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: hoodie]
finger of fate Offline
n00b

Registered: 12/17/06
Posts: 25
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Loc: Stanley, ID/Telluride, CO/Port...
It's off its rocker.

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#620512 - 12/18/06 03:36 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: Lambone]
Christy Offline
n00b

Registered: 12/18/06
Posts: 31
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Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: Lambone
wiki is whacked


I hope so...I'm waiting on legit news sources for info of course, but it was unbelievably un-nerving to read nonetheless.

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#620514 - 12/18/06 03:37 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: Christy]
ClimbingPanther Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
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Loc: Paradise
Christy, you are aware that quoting Wikipedia is akin to quoting CascadeClimbers.com, right? For most topics, it is anonymously editable by anybody with internet access. I doubt they have the real facts if what you say isn't supported by any of the news outlets.
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#620515 - 12/18/06 03:38 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: Christy]
Lambone Offline
spray'prentice

Registered: 04/10/01
Posts: 4572
TRs: 1 Photos: 46
Loc: Mt Icculus
Sherrif Wampler shouldn't have said anything about an accident or them falling. it is speculations and this missinformation is the outcome.

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#620517 - 12/18/06 03:38 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: Lambone]
telafree Offline
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Registered: 12/17/06
Posts: 4
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Loc: Pacific NW
Wow, that is an amazing clip of the mountain. The wikipedia entry was probably added by a random person. Anyone can add anything to a wikipedia entry.
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#620518 - 12/18/06 03:39 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: Lambone]
tami Offline
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Registered: 12/17/06
Posts: 19
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Loc: salem
If the other climbers were alive and had not fallen or something happen to them don't youy think someone would have seen them coming down the mountain yesterday on a good day. not trying to be morbite just realistic and the poor families need closer and i pray they get that and don't have to what until the spring.Iam still praying.
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#620520 - 12/18/06 03:41 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: tami]
Lambone Offline
spray'prentice

Registered: 04/10/01
Posts: 4572
TRs: 1 Photos: 46
Loc: Mt Icculus
we are all aware of this, but keep hoping.

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#620521 - 12/18/06 03:41 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: tami]
tami Offline
stranger

Registered: 12/17/06
Posts: 19
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Loc: salem
any news on anything.
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#620524 - 12/18/06 03:42 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: tami]
Phil Jones Offline
member

Registered: 12/16/06
Posts: 147
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Phil you have made you point enough times. Please stop now.


Edited by fern (12/18/06 03:53 PM)

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#620525 - 12/18/06 03:43 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: ClimbingPanther]
Christy Offline
n00b

Registered: 12/18/06
Posts: 31
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Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: ClimbingPanther
Christy, you are aware that quoting Wikipedia is akin to quoting CascadeClimbers.com, right? For most topics, it is anonymously editable by anybody with internet access. I doubt they have the real facts if what you say isn't supported by any of the news outlets.


Well aware..that would be why I said I'm waiting for a form of official confirmation before believing it and why I asked you good people since you're following this closely too. \:\)

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#620527 - 12/18/06 03:44 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: tami]
Aubrie Offline
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Registered: 12/18/06
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Hello. I, like many others found this forum on kgw.com. First and foremost, thank you all for letting so many of us view and post in this thread and others I would assume also, who are following this. I'm sure some of you are a bit..irratated maybe.. that so many people have come here to post or even critize some things that climbers do or don't do. I do not wish to add to the frustration so this will probably be my only post.

I'm not a climber and probably never will be one, terribly afraid of heights, but you guys all have my respect. To someone like me, being a climber seems to take a lot of courage. But others may not see it that way. At any rate, be safe all of you in the future.

My fiancee and I have both been following this thread for the past week. We're both praying and sending out those "positive vibes" to the family and friends of these three climbers. It was very sad to hear about the loss of Kelly. We hope for better outcomes for Brian and Nikko. Our hearts and thoughts go out to all the family and friends. Stay strong in this hard time. Things will be ok even if it doesn't seem like it right now.

To those of you involved in the search, stay safe, stay warm and have hope. You guys are doing all you can for them and it's a great thing that you volunteer to help people when they get into trouble.

Bring em home guys.

-Jessie

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#620533 - 12/18/06 03:49 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: Christy]
tami Offline
stranger

Registered: 12/17/06
Posts: 19
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Loc: salem
Sorry didn't mean to piss anyone off
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#620541 - 12/18/06 03:56 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: tami]
cartomat Offline
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Registered: 11/08/05
Posts: 21
TRs: 0 Photos: 0
Loc: Flanks of Mt. Hood
Sherrif Wampler also mentioned finding a rope cut with a knife...

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#620542 - 12/18/06 03:57 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: cartomat]
selkirk Offline
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Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 2901
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Loc: Wandering in the Rain
Nice work mods Hopefully you banninated him.
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#620544 - 12/18/06 03:58 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: selkirk]
finger of fate Offline
n00b

Registered: 12/17/06
Posts: 25
TRs: 0 Photos: 0
Loc: Stanley, ID/Telluride, CO/Port...
Actually, I think the sheriff said it "looked" like it had been cut by a knife. He didn't know for sure.

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#620547 - 12/18/06 03:59 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: cartomat]
alembical Offline
stranger

Registered: 09/28/05
Posts: 1
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Loc: Portland, OR
Thanks Fern!

For those who have never visited this forum before, sorry about Phil Jones. The regulars here are very helpful considerate people but with any open forum, you have to take the good with the bad.

Alembical (long-time viewer and very appreciative of this forum and all the hard work the rescurers are doing)


Edited by alembical (12/18/06 04:01 PM)

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#620549 - 12/18/06 04:00 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: ClimbingPanther]
sean_beanntan Offline
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Registered: 03/01/04
Posts: 214
TRs: 2 Photos: 24
Loc: portland
To answer a question. It seems that the climbers did summit because faint tracks were found near the summit plateau leading towards the Wyeast Route. Most likely they were not trying to descend down the Pearly Gates (as per news reports) but looking
for the Cooper Spur route. They miscalculated (got lost) and
descended too far SE to the Wyeast Route instead and dropped approx 350 ft. There they discovered their error, traversed East about 150ft and built a snow cave (big enough for 3) to await the next morning. The next day James remained in the cave, one or two? climbers traversed further East on very steep terrain towards the Cooper Spur crest. There they continued their decent another 100ft down the crest. They then chose to go further to skiers left beyond the crest where they established another smaller cave and the rap anchors on steep terrain. After that.... is a mystery that left behind one backpad pad, some pickets? and 2 technical axes in the cave. There is evidence that the rope was cut.

Please appreciate the conditions that these climbers were facing. To error is human and maybe some were made that day. But its also likely that they fought long and hard to make it down. They operated for a time under extreme conditions and as a human being and as a climber I have to respect that.

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#620555 - 12/18/06 04:05 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: sean_beanntan]
high_on_rock Offline
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The sheriff also implied that climbers would typically not be cutting the rope with a knife. In light of the popularity of “Touching the Void” and it’s “cutting the rope” implications, Just wanted to tell some of the non-climbers that there are often reasons to cut off pieces of the climbing rope, so not to read too much into that comment by the Sheriff. Climbers often cut pieces off the rope for anchors and such, or merely to make two shorter ropes out of a long one, so that cut rope may not mean much.
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#620567 - 12/18/06 04:13 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: high_on_rock]
skiingislife725 Offline
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Registered: 07/30/04
Posts: 5
TRs: 0 Photos: 0
Loc: Bellingham, WA
The sheriff just said in a press conference that Kelly had injured his arm some time during the climb.
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#620569 - 12/18/06 04:17 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: skiingislife725]
tami Offline
stranger

Registered: 12/17/06
Posts: 19
TRs: 0 Photos: 0
Loc: salem
is that all the injuries he had?
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#620571 - 12/18/06 04:19 PM Re: MT Hood Continued [Re: skiingislife725]
Phil Jones Offline
member

Registered: 12/16/06
Posts: 147
TRs: 0 Photos: 0
In any case, I'm still hoping and praying for the two climbers as well as those who are bravely searching for them.

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