Makalu59 Posted January 29, 2012 Posted January 29, 2012 Hi, Can anybody here recommend a good quality snowshoe for traversing up steep terrain? Would like to try a few winter ascents of peaks here in Idaho, conditions permitting, and could use some good snowshoe recommendations. I would guess that some sort of snowshoe/crampon combination would be necessary. Thanks! Quote
wetslide Posted January 29, 2012 Posted January 29, 2012 Might want to check out MSR. No crampons required if you are wearing snowshoes. Quote
Teh Phuzzy Posted January 29, 2012 Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Agreed. In particular look at the evo ascents. You'll want something with a climbing wire if you are going steep; or tape tennis balls under your heels... Found some good deals: http://www.ems.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=3718184&sr=1&origkw=msr&emssrcid=PPC:Google:adwords_msr_snowshoe_reviews thats a good deal on the Lightning 30's, you'd be slaying shit with those. Edited January 29, 2012 by Teh Phuzzy Quote
treknclime Posted January 29, 2012 Posted January 29, 2012 Been thinking to get the women's Lighting...as long as it'll fit my size 11's...for spring and early summer breakable crust stuff. They're reasonably light and have seen them climb well. Anyone ever use them for that? Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 29, 2012 Posted January 29, 2012 Love the lightnings for every condition. Best sidehiller and climber. Lightest, too. Not more than skis, though. Quote
Makalu59 Posted January 30, 2012 Author Posted January 30, 2012 Thanks everybody. The Evo Ascent looks like it's only available in a 22 length, which is kind of odd; the Lightning Ascent is available in two additional lengths (25 and 30). Thanks again! Quote
bistro Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 i think you can buy tails for those shoes. my MSR shoes came with 2 sets 6" and I think 9" turns out I have only needed the shorties. I bought them for denali thinking I would need the extra length for the weight of the pack. Quote
Teh Phuzzy Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 there are tails for both the evo ascents and the lightnings. Highly recommend getting tails with the ascents-- They float alright in fresh snow with minimal gear, but you'll notice a rapid lose of floatation as you put on the weight of gear. If you have the dough, go with the lightnings; they'rrrrrrrre GREAT! Quote
gasper Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) MSR lightening ascent. They have a traction ring round the outside, good crampon, and a heal platform. Tails included. I had no problems on frozen 30 degree snow to fluffy powder. I ordered some longer womens, as they are narrower than mens (ima dude). REI has them on sale right now, but still spendy. You can also rent them from REI for 20 bucks right now if you want to demo before you buy. Edited January 30, 2012 by gasper Quote
SemoreJugs Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) +3 on the lightnings! They have held up better than my previous evo's after 1 season. My only beef with the MSRs in general, is the stupid button clip they use to secure the tails on your binding straps. IT is SOOOOOO difficult to get these fuckers in the hole, even when I take off my gloves. The second one in from the toe is the worst. The clips on the older Evos were prone to snapping in cold weather. Has anyone figured out a workaround or some technique to fasten these more easily? Edited January 30, 2012 by SemoreJugs Quote
Makalu59 Posted January 30, 2012 Author Posted January 30, 2012 Thanks for the tip on renting from REI. If I'm going to spend a couple of bills on a set of snowshoes, it would be wise to try them out first. Thanks much! Quote
Jeff W Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 If you are talking about the retainer clips that hold the tails of the straps in place, when mine break I replace them with plastic cable tie wraps. Leave them loose enough to tuck the tail through. They are much more durable than originals. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 One thing I should mention is that the clap clap clap of MSR's all plastic snowshoes would drive me insane. Quote
John Frieh Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 After a few seasons of use I had the decking material in my lightening ascents tear in a few places from rubbing against the metal frame. MSR covered it under warranty but I have since switched to the evo ascents as the weight difference is minimal between the lightening and the evo ascent. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 So, what failed? The fabric/rivet connection, fabric between the rivets, or fabric under the binding? The fabric can't rub on the (outer) frame, but I can maybe see rocks and such poking through it over time, although I haven't had this problem personally. Quote
ilookeddown Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) The MRS Lightning Ascent is a good choice but the Atlas Aspect has a much better binding system that allows for lateral movement of your foot. With the MSR there is no lateral movement. Both are very similar in design. The decking on the MSR doesn’t seem very durable after a couple of seasons. I am planning to send mine back to get fixed. The MSR Denali (or Evo) is a great choice if you want to save some money. You also have the option to add flotation but again no lateral movement in the binding but very durable. Lateral movement may not be a big deal in soft snow but could be an issue when conditions are firm. It is also easier on the knees. I have all 3 pairs and only used the Aspect a few times. They are replacing an 11 year old pair of Atlas snowshoes that I was very happy with. If you go with the MSR stay away from the Lightning Axis. They are a cheaper version of the Ascent but the strap design to hold your foot in place is subpar IMO. I would also add if choosing poles go with a flip-lock design like BD makes. The “screw to tighten” type are OK but slip at just the wrong time if you don’t wrench them down with all your strength. They tend to unscrew themselves especially in heavy snow. Edited January 30, 2012 by ilookeddown Quote
Teh Phuzzy Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 I would also add if choosing poles go with a flip-lock design like BD makes. The “screw to tighten” type are OK but slip at just the wrong time if you don’t wrench them down with all your strength. They tend to unscrew themselves especially in heavy snow. Leki is making them like that now as well. Won't even buy a screw lock pole again. I've wasted so much time fiddling with mine or waiting on someone else with theirs. Quote
Makalu59 Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 I own Black Diamond Ellipticals, and love them. Strong, and the locking mechanism is extremely secure and easy to use. Quote
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