mzvarner Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 I am going to Bozeman to spend the weekend in Hyalite. I remembered that there was a problem with the BD Sabertooths and I never addressed this issue last year. Is it safe for me and my Fiance to climb on these crampons or should we quickly buy new ones? I use the Sabretooth Pro on Trango extreme evo. My Fiance is on the Sabretooth Clip with womens Trango s Evo. If I do need to buy new crampons, what do you recommend? Quote
wetslide Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 I'd recommend the BD stingers if you were going to buy new ones and are somewhat experienced (which I assume you are). my .02. Quote
CaleHoopes Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Dane's blog can be a big help to considering what to do: http://coldthistle.blogspot.com/2011/02/soft-shoe-shuffle.html Considering that Dane won't climb on them anymore, I might not allow my wife to climb on them at Ouray. This is sad, because I don't really want to get rid of them - but it's a scary enough thing to not have workable crampons and go ice climbing where a real injury can ensue. Flat glacier travel? I'd probably be ok. Don't want to see the frontpoints come off. Quote
mzvarner Posted November 29, 2011 Author Posted November 29, 2011 I am well aware of Danes blog and have done a lot of research lately. On one hand I was told its fine, and then I was told "I would not climb steep ice on them." I don't want the stress of worrying about gear failures on this trip. Quote
Water Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 well i think you answered your question then. you have some who will not climb steep ice on them, and some/BD saying they are fine. you won't find more info than that. Quote
EastCoastBastard Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Many many people are very happy on their stainless sabertooths. Quote
genepires Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 if they were to start forming cracks, you could easily replace them in town. If they break on lead, do you think you could get a screw in and lower off? My opinion is that you could easily climb with them and deal with it if something happens which is very unlikely. Quote
DanielHarro Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Remember how many thousands of SS crampons are out their and only 2 pairs have had issues..... Quote
G-spotter Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 only 2 pairs have had issues..... so far, that we know of. Quote
keenwesh Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) I thought they broke because the dude was using them with non-rigid boots, so whenever he took a step he stressed the crampon under the ball of his foot. The Evo is a rigid boot right? I wouldn't worry that they'll break but if you need an excuse to buy a new set of monos go for it. I'm loving my cyborgs, not sure I see the point of the new stingers unless you really think the couple ounces and lack of a free set of replacement points is worth it... pretty sure that topic has been covered in another thread though. Edited November 30, 2011 by keenwesh Quote
Eric K Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 I have a pair of SS sabertooth pros and climbed ice and alpine in them and have not noticed any issues. That said I may get myself a pair the petzl Lynx crampons if I were going to be doing a lot of mixed climbing just because of their versatility. Eric Quote
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