Justin-at-Petzl Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 It has come to our attention that the adjustment system of the GRIPREST (the lower hand rest at the bottom of the handle) on the 2010 NOMIC (U21 2) and ERGO (U22) in some cases may not stay fixed in the desired size position. This issue concerns NOMIC and ERGO ice tools with serial numbers between 10208 and 10329 and all GRIPREST (U21 GR2) accessory parts. It does not concern the new QUARKs or the older versions of the NOMICs, QUARKs and QUARK ERGOs. Following conversations with end users and extensive lab testing, we have determined that this problem can occur when an inward force is applied to the GRIPREST, damaging the adjustment teeth at the base of the tool’s handle that mesh with the GRIPREST (see photo). Once this damage occurs, users may lose the ability to fix the GRIPREST in the desired size position. Petzl has developed a solution to reinforce the GRIPREST, which permanently fixes it in the position of your choice (S, M, or L). This procedure will be expedited to reduce any interruption to your climbing season. Because this solution eliminates the ability to adjust the grip’s size, we will replace your tools with redesigned versions of the NOMIC or ERGO once they are available in autumn 2011. Please note that this is not a safety issue, nor is it a recall. For complete information on the GRIPREST adjustment-system issue and the Petzl solution, please visit the following link: http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/news/products-news-1/2010/12/21/information-concerning-autumn-2010-versions-nomic-ref-u21-2- Petzl offers our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience. If you have further questions, please contact the Petzl America warranty department directly at returns@petzl.com returns@petzl.com. Due to the difficulty of monitoring multiple threads on multiple message boards, Petzl will not be responding directly to comments made on this or any other message board. Thanks for your understanding Justin Roth Communications Manager Petzl America Quote
John Frieh Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Just got my tools back yesterday. Quick turn around and solid fix. Props to Petzl for making the best of the situation Quote
iceclimber Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 So how long did the round trip take? Quote
John Frieh Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 As far as I can tell they fixed them same day they received them and shipped them out the following the day. The time in transit is the largest contributor to the time. Quote
ColinB Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 Just got mine back today. I second the super fast turn around time. I mailed them last Friday and they're back in hand today. Petzl is doing same-day turn around on them. Quote
John Frieh Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 Has anyone been contacted by Petzl yet for replacement of their pinned tools with a redesigned one? Quote
Dane Posted August 21, 2011 Posted August 21, 2011 afaik, the new tools aren't in the country yet. Oct/Nov last I checked. Quote
John Frieh Posted August 22, 2011 Posted August 22, 2011 Thanks Dane. Sent them an email and got this Thanks for your mail. The updated version is not yet available, but will be this autumn. Once the new version is available we will contact you for replacement. Thanks for your patience in this matter. Quote
RafalA Posted August 23, 2011 Posted August 23, 2011 That bodes well for the tools they were showing at OR Summer not being the final, updated versions. Quote
ColinB Posted August 25, 2011 Posted August 25, 2011 I got the same form letter as John. No set date from Petzl. Quote
Dane Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 FYI.."new" Nomics are being delivered in the UK and EU already. We should be next. Quote
Dane Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 Here is a heads up for anyone interested in the new tools. My impression from email conversations I've had within the EU recently is there aren't going to be a lot of the new tools around. If you want a pair might be best to pre order yours. I have nothing to do with Petzl past climbing on their tools that I BUY with cold hard cash. And I don't have the new ones yet myself. But mine are on order and have been for a while now. Just saying...if the EU is any indication...and you want a pair...might be best to get your order in now. Quote
pyyno Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) Regarding the previous post. Here is link to the page of the Finnish importer, it states: "NEW available from 9/2011!" Klickety! Yet to receive mine, bummer. Will be calling them today START EDIT: Klickety Ergo. Them stated as being available in November. END EDIT. Edited September 14, 2011 by pyyno Quote
pyyno Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) Just off the phone. Tools not in stock yet. Avoiding flooding through editing: What was mentioned though, they had the new Lynx crampon in stock! Edited September 14, 2011 by pyyno Quote
BootsandPants Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 Just got an email from Petzl saying that they just got the tools in today and that my replacement Ergos will be on their way this afternoon. Great service and communication from Petzl through this whole thing. A+ guys! Quote
John Frieh Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 Did you have to ship back your old pair? Or did they already have them? Quote
BootsandPants Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 Did you have to ship back your old pair? Or did they already have them? They already had them. Shipped them in a month ago and told them just to send me the new ones when they're in and not to bother with the . No sense in wasting their money to ship the fixed tools back to me just to have them be shipped back and replaced a month later. Quote
John Frieh Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 Cool good info. One more question: did you send them the picks you had in them or did you keep them? Quote
BootsandPants Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 One more question: did you send them the picks you had in them or did you keep them? I just sent them the whole tool, pick and all. Quote
pyyno Posted September 29, 2011 Posted September 29, 2011 Shipped them in a month ago and told them just to send me the new ones when they're in and not to bother with the . No sense in wasting their money to ship the fixed tools back to me just to have them be shipped back and replaced a month later. I have sent mine in at 27. june. I have been informed during this time that there had been some mix ups with the shipping... Today I got a phonecall (no, actually it was me who called them) from my importer that the repaired tools have been sent back to me. Why bother sending the repaired tools if the new ones "seem" to be available allready (Nomic). Viking Alpinism Hopefully the axes are the new ones, inorder to avoid the hassle of sending the fixed axes back again when the (ICE-) season is actually on. Quote
Dane Posted September 29, 2011 Posted September 29, 2011 I sent my tools from last year in today. I was told that the new tools are ready and would be shipped within a day of mine arriving in SLC/Clearfield. Hard for anyone to do any better. Quote
John Frieh Posted September 29, 2011 Posted September 29, 2011 I sent my tools from last year in today. I was told that the new tools are ready and would be shipped within a day of mine arriving in SLC. Did they contact you or did you email them and ask? Quote
Dane Posted September 29, 2011 Posted September 29, 2011 Funny you should ask. I sent an email a few days ago that wasn't answered fast enough for me. No big surprise of course as I get a little anzy not having tools. So I called the front desk today. They in turn hooked me up with Matt in warrenty and returns. Two minutes later (and they don't know me from John Frieh) I had an RA# and a UPS label in my email. 20 minutes later I hooked up with the UPS truck. Quote
John Frieh Posted September 30, 2011 Posted September 30, 2011 Funny you should ask. I sent an email a few days ago that wasn't answered fast enough for me. No big surprise of course as I get a little anzy not having tools. So I called the front desk today. They in turn hooked me up with Matt in warrenty and returns. Two minutes later (and they don't know me from John Frieh) I had an RA# and a UPS label in my email. 20 minutes later I hooked up with the UPS truck. come on man... though I wish I dont have the super hook up at Petzl Quote
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