pink Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 so i may come out to portland in september and would love to finish a few routes that i started 10 years ago, i understand i have to jump through some hoops to do so. lets say i put in some bolts but don't jump through the hoops. shall i polish up my hand basket or should i not worry about the authority behind it. thanks, andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 BRSPFPA! Seems like it is fairly easy to jump through the hoops, but I've never been involved with it. I also heard or read that you can do the paperwork after the fact if the bolts/fixed pro were necessary for safety reasons. Perhaps you could go through the BRSP Climbing Plan and find out for yourself? I used to have a copy and was going to attach it, but I can't seem to locate the PDF on my PC. Justnip should have a copy though. He's the one that fwd it to me last fall/winter. Full disclosure... Under no circumstances should my spray be relied on as fact, partial fact or truthful whatsoever. I have a limited capacity to remember facts, just ask my wife. The reader should rely on their own research and fact checking before challenging the MAN and his policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 DAAAAAHHHH BEACOOOONNNNN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 um bill can you please remove your spray from this very important thread, thank you :kisss: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 DAAAAAHHHH BEACOOOONNNNN! Why do I have to look just like JH, that's not fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Bears fans all look like the defensive line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 never seen the form or experienced the wait time to get it approved - if you're just out here for a couple days i bet it would be too big a pain in the ass though - that said, if you're on the n side and just a few feet off the ground on a crowded day you might well enounter The Man and His questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevetimetravlr Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 does "the man" wear Lycra becaUSE i saw some dude....he said he was The man but I question it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I dunna know, what's the difference between one of you and some sport dude who decides he want's to bolt Blownout to provide a wider opportunity for all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 I dunna know, what's the difference between one of you and some sport dude who decides he want's to bolt Blownout to provide a wider opportunity for all? i guess when u say one of YOU, you are speaking on yours and ours behalf... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I dunna know, what's the difference between one of you and some sport dude who decides he want's to bolt Blownout to provide a wider opportunity for all? seems a clear difference - who on earth thinks adding bolts to a pre-existing route is kosher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 guess i just call the ranger station for the scooop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Well, given Beacon is a trad island in a sport ocean and has seen bolt skirmishes and the installation of a number of retro sport anchors and retro bolts on what were previously aid lines, who's to say what should and should not be bolted for the sake of the PDX community? P.S. I'd answer if I thought it was a serious question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 sure would like to see the form - would be nice if we could put a sticky-noted link to a pdf in this beatard forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 don't bother, i'll just call the ranger station. why wouldn't it be a serious question, chances r i won't have to install any bolts in the first place and you can TR hang dog another one of my routes like you did on this one MONKEY BOY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 beacon bolting ? = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 why wouldn't it be a serious question Because it's coming from you maybe? ...chances r i won't have to install any bolts in the first place and you can TR hang dog another one of my routes like you did on this one MONKEY BOY Yes, it was nice of you to put a rope on that one, and yep, missed the move up on it for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 however, i'll just get the scoop from the ranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 That's fine with me, they're the man with the plan (CMP rewrite coming soon now that the new park staff is in place and the big construction projects are out of the way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Maintenance anchors I tell you. That is the solution. Just put in anchors to clean this route that must be grown over after 10 years, then have JH chop chop chop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 can someone trundle some large rocks down the north face before i arrive please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 can someone trundle some large rocks down the north face before i arrive please dunno maaan - you start trundling loose blocks on most of that side and likely you'll have the summit back down to the ground by the time yer done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 can someone trundle some large rocks down the north face before i arrive please The north face has been doing that quite well on its own of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Talked with Vivian and she'll track it down. It apparently got misplaced over the course of the changing of the guard. I'll post it somewhere permanent when she sends it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 beacon bolting ? = I like steak and BACON... MMMM BACON STEAKS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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