Crazy Canadian MP

[KaskadskyjKozak]

so your idea of good coverage for all is rich people having preferential and expedited treatment?

 

Well-off americans don't go to Canada for treatment.

 

I guess socializing their medical system has a lowering effect on quality at the higher levels of treatment in the aggregate. No surprises there. Socialism is great at lowering the bar.

 

 

[prole]

so your idea of good coverage for all is rich people having preferential and expedited treatment?

 

Well-off americans don't go to Canada for treatment.

 

I guess socializing their medical system has a lowering effect on quality at the higher levels of treatment in the aggregate. No surprises there. Socialism is great at lowering the bar.

 

 

Even if what you you said was true (which it isn't), would maintaining a platinum-plated, elite-only boutique system of health care be worth it if it meant large numbers would go without entirely? Curious vision of freedom you have there.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

so your idea of good coverage for all is rich people having preferential and expedited treatment?

 

Well-off americans don't go to Canada for treatment.

 

I guess socializing their medical system has a lowering effect on quality at the higher levels of treatment in the aggregate. No surprises there. Socialism is great at lowering the bar.

 

 

Even if what you you said was true (which it isn't), would maintaining a platinum-plated, elite-only boutique system of health care be worth it if it meant large numbers would go without entirely? Curious vision of freedom you have there.

If 80% of Americans have coverage for great care - that's better than 100% of coverage where the quality drops enough to force people to leave the country to get the care they need... if they can afford it.

 

Why don't you just study something useful so you can get a job with coverage, Prole? I mean, after you move out from your Mom's house.

 

 

 

 

[j_b]

More Americans Seeking Surgery Abroad

 

(WebMD) Dismayed by high surgical costs in the United States, increasing numbers of American patients are packing their bags to have necessary surgery performed in countries such as India, Thailand and Singapore.

 

"This is not what is sometimes snootily referred to as 'medical tourism,' in which people go abroad for elective plastic surgery," says Mark D. Smith, MD, MBA, president and chief executive officer of the California HealthCare Foundation in Oakland.

 

Today's "medical refugees," the term Smith uses in an article published in the Oct. 19 issue of The New England Journal of Medicine, are going to foreign countries for lifesaving procedures such as coronary bypass surgery and heart valve replacement, and also life-enhancing procedures such as hip and knee replacement.

 

"People are desperate," Smith tells WebMD. "This illustrates the growing unaffordability of the U.S. health care system, even to people who are by no means indigent."

 

more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/18/health/webmd/main2104425.shtml

[KaskadskyjKozak]

More Americans Seeking Surgery Abroad

 

(WebMD) Dismayed by high surgical costs in the United States, increasing numbers of American patients are packing their bags to have necessary surgery performed in countries such as India, Thailand and Singapore.

 

"This is not what is sometimes snootily referred to as 'medical tourism,' in which people go abroad for elective plastic surgery," says Mark D. Smith, MD, MBA, president and chief executive officer of the California HealthCare Foundation in Oakland.

 

Today's "medical refugees," the term Smith uses in an article published in the Oct. 19 issue of The New England Journal of Medicine, are going to foreign countries for lifesaving procedures such as coronary bypass surgery and heart valve replacement, and also life-enhancing procedures such as hip and knee replacement.

 

"People are desperate," Smith tells WebMD. "This illustrates the growing unaffordability of the U.S. health care system, even to people who are by no means indigent."

 

more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/18/health/webmd/main2104425.shtml

 

Maybe you could travel to Thailand for some affordable, prosthetic testicals, j_b?

[jon]

It would be cool if everyone knew what they were talking about.

 

The only huge flaw in the Canadian system that I know of is that any type of therapeutics for cancer or autoimmune disease, that can be in upwards of $50k for a full treatment, are not covered under their basic plan as opposed to something like a life saving heart procedure. Both are live saving, both are expensive, but because one is a drug it's not covered. In those instances the Canadian system is no better.

[jon]

If 80% of Americans have coverage for great care - that's better than 100% of coverage where the quality drops enough to force people to leave the country to get the care they need... if they can afford it.

 

So what you are saying is that 20% of people should suffer because "they don't deserve" healthcare so that .1% of 80% who need expensive procedures can get them?

[KaskadskyjKozak]

If 80% of Americans have coverage for great care - that's better than 100% of coverage where the quality drops enough to force people to leave the country to get the care they need... if they can afford it.

 

So what you are saying is that 20% of people should suffer because "they don't deserve" healthcare so that .1% of 80% who need expensive procedures can get them?

 

nope

[Hugh Conway]

If 80% of Americans have coverage for great care - that's better than 100% of coverage where the quality drops enough to force people to leave the country to get the care they need... if they can afford it.

 

So what you are saying is that 20% of people should suffer because "they don't deserve" healthcare so that .1% of 80% who need expensive procedures can get them?

 

.08%? Isn't that the minimum BAC needed to participate?

[j_b]

More Americans Seeking Surgery Abroad

 

(WebMD) Dismayed by high surgical costs in the United States, increasing numbers of American patients are packing their bags to have necessary surgery performed in countries such as India, Thailand and Singapore.

 

"This is not what is sometimes snootily referred to as 'medical tourism,' in which people go abroad for elective plastic surgery," says Mark D. Smith, MD, MBA, president and chief executive officer of the California HealthCare Foundation in Oakland.

 

Today's "medical refugees," the term Smith uses in an article published in the Oct. 19 issue of The New England Journal of Medicine, are going to foreign countries for lifesaving procedures such as coronary bypass surgery and heart valve replacement, and also life-enhancing procedures such as hip and knee replacement.

 

"People are desperate," Smith tells WebMD. "This illustrates the growing unaffordability of the U.S. health care system, even to people who are by no means indigent."

 

more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/18/health/webmd/main2104425.shtml

 

Maybe you could travel to Thailand for some affordable, prosthetic testicals, j_b?

 

what no comment about how this article blew your argument out of the water? "People are desperate," Smith tells WebMD. "This illustrates the growing unaffordability of the U.S. health care system, even to people who are by no means indigent."

[KaskadskyjKozak]

what no comment about how this article blew your argument out of the water? "People are desperate,"

 

man, you're an assclown

 

do you ever have fun, laugh, or do anything but bitch about how horrible life in the US is?

[j_b]

You forgot the most important part, jackass: "This illustrates the growing unaffordability of the U.S. health care system, even to people who are by no means indigent."

[Hugh Conway]

man, you're an assclown

 

do you ever have fun, laugh, or do anything but bitch about how horrible life in the US is?

 

Hey kettle STFU!

[KaskadskyjKozak]

man, you're an assclown

 

do you ever have fun, laugh, or do anything but bitch about how horrible life in the US is?

 

Hey kettle STFU!

 

I laugh all the team. Mostly, at, not with people like you.

 

[Hugh Conway]

man, you're an assclown

 

do you ever have fun, laugh, or do anything but bitch about how horrible life in the US is?

 

Hey kettle STFU!

 

I laugh all the team. Mostly, at, not with people like you.

 

what do you think we've been doing since the moment you showed up?

[prole]

Why don't you just study something useful so you can get a job with coverage, Prole?

 

As if having health insurance in America is any guarantee that they'd pay up and you still wouldn't go shit-ass broke when something did happen to you!

[KaskadskyjKozak]

 

what do you think we've been doing since the moment you showed up?

 

Threatening to kill people on the Inter Glacier?

 

 

[G-spotter]

 

I laugh all the team.

 

I'm laughing at your team too. GO CANADA!

[G-spotter]

 

Well-off americans don't go to Canada for treatment.

 

Well no, they might have to join the line instead of pushing to the front.

[prole]

 

Well-off americans don't go to Canada for treatment.

 

Well no, they might have to join the line instead of pushing to the front.

 

That's simply Un-American.

[Hugh Conway]

 

I laugh all the team.

 

I'm laughing at your team too. GO CANADA!

 

Crosby will go down even harder than Jagr

[KaskadskyjKozak]

 

I laugh all the team.

 

I'm laughing at your team too. GO CANADA!

 

Yeah, GO CANADA!

 

[tomtom]

 

I laugh all the team.

 

I'm laughing at your team too. GO CANADA!

 

5-3

[Hugh Conway]

 

I laugh all the team.

 

I'm laughing at your team too. GO CANADA!

 

Crosby will go down even harder than Jagr

 

Crosby will go down faster than KK at a gay bar

[j_b]

well, the level of the discussion certainly improved since KKK showed up.