spotly Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) I picked up this pack early last year from a local store that won't take gear back just because of poor design. It's a bit small but with some creative packing I managed to get climbing and overnight gear into it (just a light bivy - nothing heavy). I went with this pack because of the profile and because I like my other Ospreys - especially the feature that lets me tighten the waist belt by pulling forward and the comfort. Overall the pack isn't living up to my expectactions though - it has absolutely no back support and tends to fold over on itself, putting all of the weight onto the shoulders. The side pockets are so shallow as to be useless. I can get taller pockets sewn on but not sure how to stiffen the danged thing up without adding a ton of weight. Any suggestions? Getting another pack is an options but with other gear on this years wish list, yet another pack might not go over too well with the boss so I'd be limited to something that I could sneak by unnoticed by the budget police Edited January 17, 2010 by spotly Quote
Autoxfil Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 Unfortunately, that's the nature of the beast. The Mutant is an ultra-light minimalist pack with no frame, and comfort and capacity are the cost of such light weight. It sounds like you really wanted a Variant 37 - a few more features, some aluminum in the frame to keep it stiff, and of course a few more ounces of weight. I have a Variant 52 and it borders on perfection. By the way, the side pockets are not for storage - they are for holding the bottom of pickets and wands which are held in place by the compression straps. Quote
G-spotter Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Thanks for the review. I was just looking at these online and between the two comments above all my questions were answered. Quote
t_rutl Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 Same thing. Bought the Mutant and promply returned it for the Varient 37. Haven't been happier with a pack. Quote
spotly Posted March 30, 2010 Author Posted March 30, 2010 It was a toss-up between the Variant and the Stratos. I went with the Stratos in the 40 for a little more space. Thanks for the feedback. Now those pockets make more sense Quote
Julian Posted March 30, 2010 Posted March 30, 2010 One of my friends swears by the Variant 52 so I imagine both it and the 37 are top-quality gear. I picked up a Mammut Ice 45 on closeout from REI and love it. It feels lighter than a typical "45" and has all the attention to detail I usually expect from Mammut. Quote
PeakDream Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 One thing I don't like to the Ice 45L is the hood is not detachable, so climbing with it is sometimes a pain. Quote
denalidave Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 Another vote for the Variant 52. Most comfortable pack I've owned, simple, yet sophisticated design with climber specific features. Not the lightest, but well worth the weight for most applications I will use it for... Quote
dhrmabum Posted April 1, 2010 Posted April 1, 2010 (edited) Hey guys. I've heard nothing but positive about the Variant. I'm leaning toward the 52, but, and I know this is a bit of a dumb query, but, should I consider the 37 for any reason? That being more of just a day pack? Already have the Osprey Atmos 50, but I think the Variant would be better for climbing, carrying skis, and just better all-around. Thanks. Edited April 3, 2010 by dhrmabum Quote
bearbreeder Posted April 1, 2010 Posted April 1, 2010 got the mutant, actually like it alot except for no crampon pocket the frame can be an issue if you dont pack it right easy solution ... i got an thin piece of balsa wood and stuffed it between the bivy pad ... it solved any frame issues when im carrying heavier loads ... it also acts as emergency tinder in a survival situation Quote
BigSky Posted April 1, 2010 Posted April 1, 2010 I don't particularly love the Mutant, but I do think it's the closest thing to a true climbing pack that Osprey has built in recent history. Quote
spotly Posted April 1, 2010 Author Posted April 1, 2010 got the mutant, actually like it alot except for no crampon pocket the frame can be an issue if you dont pack it right easy solution ... i got an thin piece of balsa wood and stuffed it between the bivy pad ... it solved any frame issues when im carrying heavier loads ... it also acts as emergency tinder in a survival situation Hey, I kinda like that idea! I'd think it would shred fairly quckly though? Quote
bearbreeder Posted April 1, 2010 Posted April 1, 2010 i sanded the edges of the balsa wood down and wrapped the sides in tape ... just ads to the flamability .... lol its stored within the bivy pad ... if yr worried u can just tape the wood to the pad and it shouldnt tear through anything ... course osprey does have a no questions asked lifetime warranty it allows me to carry a double rack, 10mm 60 m rope, water, belay jacket, helmet, etc ... with minimal frame distortion ... basically 30 lbs+ you can also use the cheap light wooden sidings from the 80s if you have any left ... the stuff they put on doors and walls ... lol let me know if you need anything else Quote
bearbreeder Posted April 1, 2010 Posted April 1, 2010 here's a quick photo of the cheap siding version .... it adds almost no weight and its my tinder when the pack weight comes down ... Quote
layton Posted April 1, 2010 Posted April 1, 2010 you can cut out the top lid of a tupperware store box. I use this when I use my alpine pack for carrying above avg loads to a basecamp. Quote
Maxtrax Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 The Exposure series was replaced by the Variant series last year. If you can still find the Exposures they're alright packs but always stuck up too far behind my head in the appropriate frame size. Quote
t_rutl Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 agreed...i have the 50 light, good features, carries heavy loads fanstastic and is comfy but everytime i look up and my helmet hits the back of the frame sticking up killing my field of view...i want to burn the fawking thing...other than that its great Quote
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