genepires Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 My bolt that holds the pick in my charlet quasar seems to be really stuck. I was going to pull the pick off for airline travel and came close to rounding out the allen head bolt. Luckily, I haven't had to change out the pick yet but I suppose that someday I gotta take care of this problem. Any solutions other than drilling out the offending stuck bolt? A lubricant spray or wd40 bath? Angry words and threats? Smack the head with a hammer till she (the ice tool) submits? thanks gene Quote
keenwesh Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 if you strip it just take a hacksaw and cut a new thread... Quote
Ishmael Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 use a penetrating oil (like wd-40). Try to tightening it a bit before loosening it, if it moves, try to back it out. Tapping/hitting the head as you apply torque to the fastener will help a bit. If you round out the hex, get a good pair of vice grips and grip the outside of the fastener. You will cut big groves in the head but it is already rounded out and shot. And lastly, drill it out. if it is a blind hole, buy a left handed drill bit that is smaller then the minor dia of the fastener threads. If you are lucky, the left handed drill will back it out of the hole and your existing threads on the ice tool will be fine. This is easier said then done esp if you do not have a drill press or mill. Quote
genepires Posted December 3, 2009 Author Posted December 3, 2009 unfortunately, the bolt is flush with the head so I can't get a channellock on the outside. I like the idea of a left handed drill bit. Where do you find those? Quote
Ishmael Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 a good auto parts store should have them and if not would know where to get one. Good luck. Stuck fasteners are their own little bundle of joy... Quote
MarkMcJizzy Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 use a penetrating oil (like wd-40). Try to tightening it a bit before loosening it, if it moves, try to back it out. Tapping/hitting the head as you apply torque to the fastener will help a bit. Very good advice. Be patient, and just soak the living shit outa it with WD. And lastly, drill it out. if it is a blind hole, buy a left handed drill bit that is smaller then the minor dia of the fastener threads. If you are lucky, the left handed drill will back it out of the hole and your existing threads on the ice tool will be fine. You may be forced to do this, but do it as a last resort. The bolt is probably Grade 8, or the metric equivalent, and is harder than hell. The last (two) things you want to do is break a drill, or break an easy out. Quote
Alasdair Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 unfortunately, the bolt is flush with the head so I can't get a channellock on the outside. I like the idea of a left handed drill bit. Where do you find those? Gene, I dont know if your in Seattle, but if so you can find almost any tool you need at Hardwicks Hardware in the U district. They will have the drill bit. Quote
wdietsch Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 I like the idea of a left handed drill bit. Where do you find those? It may be easier to find what is often referred to as an "easy out" .. made specifically for backing out screw/bolts with striped or broken heads screw extractor Quote
genepires Posted December 4, 2009 Author Posted December 4, 2009 sweet! I actually have a easy out thing but it is way too small for this bolt. I was unaware that larger ones were made but then I have never gone to sears. WIll head there this weekend after trying the wd40 soak. thanks all for the advice! Quote
counterfeitfake Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 WD-40 is kids stuff, go with PB Blaster. Quote
wdietsch Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Quasar heads are aluminum .. right ??? If so you might also try placing it in the freezer for a while and then over a heating duct and warming it up .. the aluminum will conduct heat faster than the steel bolt Quote
montypiton Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) WD40 might work, but Marvel Mystery Oil, if you can find it, has been known, on occasion, to free seized engines. Any "penetrating oil" is a reasonable bet if you can soak the fitting in it for a few hours. Oiling the next bolt you use, before installing it, should prevent a recurrance, as will products like locktite Edited December 4, 2009 by montypiton Quote
NoahT Posted December 4, 2009 Posted December 4, 2009 Kroil--comes in an orange can--Its a lubricant we use the construction trade frequently. Better than wd40. You can find it at legit hardware stores. Quote
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