billcoe Posted January 22, 2009 Author Posted January 22, 2009 ... i heard that to mean: we are a pluralistic society that accepts equality for women, all religions, etc - the al queda manifesto against the usa said we had to essentially apologize and renouce those lifestyle choices though. Perhaps others may have taken "We will not apologize for our way of life..." to to mean: "We will continue to borrow like the world will end tomorrow and spend money like drunken sailors while we use the worlds resources 3 times as much as anyone else as we damn well please so sod off and just move out of Iraq so we can get our pumps in there and move along to Afghanistan we're not apologizing for any of this at all." ? Hmmmm.... Quote
mythosgrl Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 "We will not apologize for our way of life..." Can't help but think that this line inspired a few quizzical looks back and forth and a momentary pause between claps amongst The Nation's subscriber base. yeah I thought that sounded an awfully lot like Bush... The Daily show had a funny comparison between Bush speeches and Obama's. http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/index.jhtml?episodeId=216535 I personally think we should apologize. I mean, if everyone lived like us we'd need 5 Earth's to have enough resources, etc. I think we have plenty of things to apologize for... Quote
Fairweather Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 I personally think we should apologize. I mean, if everyone lived like us we'd need 5 Earth's to have enough resources, etc. I think we have plenty of things to apologize for... Quote
JayB Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 If anyone wants to absolve themselves of the sins which their American lifestyle makes them complicit in, I will be happy to take receipt of the title to their cars, their homes*, and direct transfers of all funds used to supply the above with fuel, water, electricity, modern medicine, travel, and any consumer goods over and above those which are part of a third-world caliber subsistence lifestyle into a special account that I'll set up for that very purpose. I'll be happy to forward the funds thus derived to a charity of your choosing on an annual basis. Any funds not donated to charity will be used to indulge in angst-free heli-skiing trips to Valdez, extended fly-fishing and kayaking junkets in New Zealand, summers climbing in Squamish and the South Platte, etc but I'd be willing to consider purchasing carbon offsets commensurate with the resources that I consume on all of the said trips if anyone insisted. Cleanse yourself, my Children! Heave your guilt onto my shoulders! Amen! Hallelujah, and start signing those checks...! *Sans the 125% LTV, I/O, Neg-AM Option ARM or similar mortgage, if applicable. Quote
JayB Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 ... i heard that to mean: we are a pluralistic society that accepts equality for women, all religions, etc - the al queda manifesto against the usa said we had to essentially apologize and renouce those lifestyle choices though. Perhaps others may have taken "We will not apologize for our way of life..." to to mean: "We will continue to borrow like the world will end tomorrow and spend money like drunken sailors while we use the worlds resources 3 times as much as anyone else as we damn well please so sod off and just move out of Iraq so we can get our pumps in there and move along to Afghanistan we're not apologizing for any of this at all." ? Hmmmm.... C'mon now Bill. You've done plenty of good while consuming all of those resources. Provided a good home with heat, light, food, etc for your family, provided an income for other folks, enabled other people to do the same, contributed a fortune in taxes to help fund medicare, medicaid, social security, public education, foreign-AID, scientific research, etc - all without borrowing like a drunken sailor. Take off the hair-shirt! It suits Prole much better than you, my friend! Quote
olyclimber Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 some how i knew you could work a reference to an ARM into the post. its your trademark! Quote
archenemy Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 If anyone wants to absolve themselves of the sins which their American lifestyle makes them complicit in, I will be happy to take receipt of the title to their cars, their homes*, and direct transfers of all funds used to supply the above with fuel, water, electricity, modern medicine, travel, and any consumer goods over and above those which are part of a third-world caliber subsistence lifestyle into a special account that I'll set up for that very purpose. I'll be happy to forward the funds thus derived to a charity of your choosing on an annual basis. Any funds not donated to charity will be used to indulge in angst-free heli-skiing trips to Valdez, extended fly-fishing and kayaking junkets in New Zealand, summers climbing in Squamish and the South Platte, etc but I'd be willing to consider purchasing carbon offsets commensurate with the resources that I consume on all of the said trips if anyone insisted. Cleanse yourself, my Children! Heave your guilt onto my shoulders! Amen! Hallelujah, and start signing those checks...! *Sans the 125% LTV, I/O, Neg-AM Option ARM or similar mortgage, if applicable. Dude, NZ is totally on sale right now. I just got an email about a 270 each way ticket. Quote
JayB Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 More of a Seattle area homebuyer circa 2003-mid-2007 trademark, I think. Quote
olyclimber Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 well the market can only go up! get in while you can. Quote
archenemy Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 And the Mariners are gonna win this year! Quote
olyclimber Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 they will win second from last place in their division Quote
prole Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 ... i heard that to mean: we are a pluralistic society that accepts equality for women, all religions, etc - the al queda manifesto against the usa said we had to essentially apologize and renouce those lifestyle choices though. Perhaps others may have taken "We will not apologize for our way of life..." to to mean: "We will continue to borrow like the world will end tomorrow and spend money like drunken sailors while we use the worlds resources 3 times as much as anyone else as we damn well please so sod off and just move out of Iraq so we can get our pumps in there and move along to Afghanistan we're not apologizing for any of this at all." ? Hmmmm.... C'mon now Bill. You've done plenty of good while consuming all of those resources. Provided a good home with heat, light, food, etc for your family, provided an income for other folks, enabled other people to do the same, contributed a fortune in taxes to help fund medicare, medicaid, social security, public education, foreign-AID, scientific research, etc - all without borrowing like a drunken sailor. Take off the hair-shirt! It suits Prole much better than you, my friend! Sounds like everyone got the memo except you Jay. Quote
JayB Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 If anyone wants to absolve themselves of the sins which their American lifestyle makes them complicit in, I will be happy to take receipt of the title to their cars, their homes*, and direct transfers of all funds used to supply the above with fuel, water, electricity, modern medicine, travel, and any consumer goods over and above those which are part of a third-world caliber subsistence lifestyle into a special account that I'll set up for that very purpose. I'll be happy to forward the funds thus derived to a charity of your choosing on an annual basis. Any funds not donated to charity will be used to indulge in angst-free heli-skiing trips to Valdez, extended fly-fishing and kayaking junkets in New Zealand, summers climbing in Squamish and the South Platte, etc but I'd be willing to consider purchasing carbon offsets commensurate with the resources that I consume on all of the said trips if anyone insisted. Cleanse yourself, my Children! Heave your guilt onto my shoulders! Amen! Hallelujah, and start signing those checks...! *Sans the 125% LTV, I/O, Neg-AM Option ARM or similar mortgage, if applicable. Dude, NZ is totally on sale right now. I just got an email about a 270 each way ticket. Wow. Sure beats ~$3500! Quote
JayB Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 well the market can only go up! get in while you can. Too late for that. Everyone who failed to buy prior to 2005 will be priced out forever. Just ask the folks in San Diego. Quote
JayB Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 ... i heard that to mean: we are a pluralistic society that accepts equality for women, all religions, etc - the al queda manifesto against the usa said we had to essentially apologize and renouce those lifestyle choices though. Perhaps others may have taken "We will not apologize for our way of life..." to to mean: "We will continue to borrow like the world will end tomorrow and spend money like drunken sailors while we use the worlds resources 3 times as much as anyone else as we damn well please so sod off and just move out of Iraq so we can get our pumps in there and move along to Afghanistan we're not apologizing for any of this at all." ? Hmmmm.... C'mon now Bill. You've done plenty of good while consuming all of those resources. Provided a good home with heat, light, food, etc for your family, provided an income for other folks, enabled other people to do the same, contributed a fortune in taxes to help fund medicare, medicaid, social security, public education, foreign-AID, scientific research, etc - all without borrowing like a drunken sailor. Take off the hair-shirt! It suits Prole much better than you, my friend! Sounds like everyone got the memo except you Jay. And Obama, evidently. Quote
Dechristo Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 Dude, NZ is totally on sale right now. I just got an email about a 270 each way ticket. No shit!?! I'm gonna consider a visit to the land of the world's fastest Indian. Quote
archenemy Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 Dude, NZ is totally on sale right now. I just got an email about a 270 each way ticket. Wow. Sure beats ~$3500! Totally serious. if you are looking to go, now is the time to speak up. Quote
prole Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 C'mon now Bill. You've done plenty of good while consuming all of those resources. Provided a good home with heat, light, food, etc for your family, provided an income for other folks, enabled other people to do the same, contributed a fortune in taxes to help fund medicare, medicaid, social security, public education, foreign-AID, scientific research, etc - all without borrowing like a drunken sailor. [video:youtube] Quote
STP Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 ... i heard that to mean: we are a pluralistic society that accepts equality for women, all religions, etc - the al queda manifesto against the usa said we had to essentially apologize and renouce those lifestyle choices though. Perhaps others may have taken "We will not apologize for our way of life..." to to mean: "We will continue to borrow like the world will end tomorrow and spend money like drunken sailors while we use the worlds resources 3 times as much as anyone else as we damn well please so sod off and just move out of Iraq so we can get our pumps in there and move along to Afghanistan we're not apologizing for any of this at all." ? Hmmmm.... C'mon now Bill. You've done plenty of good while consuming all of those resources. Provided a good home with heat, light, food, etc for your family, provided an income for other folks, enabled other people to do the same, contributed a fortune in taxes to help fund medicare, medicaid, social security, public education, foreign-AID, scientific research, etc - all without borrowing like a drunken sailor. Take off the hair-shirt! It suits Prole much better than you, my friend! I’d suppose that the young activists, visionaries and radicals of the 60’s and early 70’s saw two different images of America. One was held by Nixon’s silent majority who often said, “America, Love it or Leave it" and who remember well John Wayne’s words, “Never say sorry—it’s a sign of weakness.” The other image of America was one of a world in flux progressing towards an expansion of values to be more inclusive, representing a higher unity. The world is the tribe. Perhaps that's too lofty an ideal but it feels like that spirit again. The cynic in me sees Obama as an embodiment of virtue as described in Machiavelli’s The Prince. The sacred oath loses something if one mouths the word "God" but does not acknowledge the actual existence of such in some form. Nevertheless, while the President speaks of challenges and hardship his head steadily looks up so that our gaze is directed upwards with his. Maybe a little cryptic but here’s one for the oldsters: [video:youtube]xWGAdzn5_KU Quote
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