Alpine_Tom Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 The last couple of years, I've noticed places like REI selling scales that purport to measure your body fat percentage, apparently by means of a small electrical current. Any idea whether they are of any use, or is it just another gimic, like the BMI index? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 i thought the scale at rei was to measure fat in their low-fat biscotti....i might be wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieE Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 The scales measure your bioelectric impedence and is based on the principle that body fat is an insulator and muscle is a conductor. The low level charge is sent from one hand to the other (or one foot to the other depending on if you're standing on it or holding it) and it measures the amount of resistance it experiences. The problem is the current follows the shortest path: hand-arm-chest-arm-hand. Depending on your genetic pre-disposition, you may store most of your fat in your legs giving an inaccurate reading. A clinical bio-electric impedence device will actually measure from your ankle to your wrist to prevent this. As long as you know this limitation, along with inaccuracies related to hydration levels and gender issues, the Tanita scales are good for measuring a fitness program over time because of their test-retest reliability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtenay Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 Just to add to Eddie's reply: since fat is low-impedance and muscle and water are high impedance, the scale determines what percentage of your body mass is fat versus muscle. BIA (bioelectrical impedance analysis) seems to be one of the more accurate and certainly inexpensive measurements of body fat available, though if you have someone thoroughly trained in assessing body fat by taking skinfold caliper measurements, or if you can find someplace to do densitometry (underwater weighing, rather unpleasant), these can be more reliable. If you compare all sets of numbers there will probably be some disparity. Also, for any women who might happen to be lurking out there, remember that women tend to retain more water at certain times in their cycle, and the Tanita scale (in general) tends to overestimate bodyfat by about 7% (based on personal observation, disparities noted between Tanita scale measurements and clients' skinfold caliper measurements at various times throughout the month). That having been said, it is still a pretty good way to assess RELATIVE changes over several months, as Eddie points out. Other ways to assess progress, of course, include how you feel in your clothes (body measurements), overall energy levels, performance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanr Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 Come on Courtenay, underwater weighing is the best. "Keep blowing, keep blowing!" Just 'cause the poor victims think they're going to drown and don't do the test properly, don't let that throw you off. I did the tests for a lab class one quarter, we had one person who floated even after they blew all of their air out. What are you supposed to tell them? "Sorry, we can't accurately measure you because you're too fat." Brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pencil_Pusher Posted July 20, 2001 Share Posted July 20, 2001 The funny thing is, what the heck does this all matter, anyway? Do whatever suits your fancy, but weighing and fat % is for the birds. Common sense prevails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 20, 2001 Share Posted July 20, 2001 I've heard of a guy who ate an entire salami and brick of cheese one night and then tested his fat percentage using the electric impedence method. He said according to that he had lost like 10 lbs of fat! (it was because of the high sodium content of the salami improved electrical conductivity). A much more accurate method of measuring body fat is the simple skin fold calipers (by someone who is skilled in using them). And you can buy a pair for about $15-20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pencil_Pusher Posted July 21, 2001 Share Posted July 21, 2001 I like the Arnold Schwarzenegger approach. That, like this, seems anal enough. "Ahhch...Meower bahdee phat. Eye mussst ddreenk meower watter und exthersize fure lahnger tyem." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpine_Tom Posted July 21, 2001 Author Share Posted July 21, 2001 I guess you could just take the Arnold Schwarzenegger approach -- jump up and down while watching yourself in the mirror. If it jiggles, it's fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verticalswamp Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 muscle can jiggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 My balls jiggle too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 quote: Originally posted by verticalswamp: muscle can jiggle. when its flaccid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieE Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 I don't want to know what you do in your spare time. [This message has been edited by EddieE (edited 08-10-2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 I can always find a willing female brah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr._Blister Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 That's not what I've heard Ray. How is your relationship with Rosey Palm and her five sisters, anyway? =;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 Never heard of the wench or her playmates homey. Not everyone is like Drul and lays waste to animals. Sick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 Blister why are you posting to Spray like this when you should be writing your contribution to the STORY about the nameless dead guy and Kristi???? Is Kristi gonna turn out to be Krist Novoselic in drag or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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