what pitch/what climb?

[pink]

 

not you kevbone!!!!!!!!

[tvashtarkatena]

Two Dumshits on Gloryhole Wall

[David Trippett]

NA wall?

[pink]

hey, i'm trying to contribute something here. i put it in spray because this is what climbers do when there not climbing, they talk about it. you probably won't know the answer being alot of the pro is body weight only and that might not apply to your mountain hoofing fat ass.

Edited November 15, 2007 by pink

[pink]

NA wall?

 

further left facing the stone. not enought diorite for NA.

[tvashtarkatena]

Try contributing a real TR sometime, shitbag. Now STFU and take it up the ass like a good little boy.

[David Trippett]

po wall or south seas then....now i'm just guessing

[RuMR]

hey, i'm trying to contribute something here. i put it in spray because this is what climbers do when there not climbing, they talk about it. you probably won't know the answer being alot of the pro is body weight only and that might not apply to your mountain hoofing fat ass.

 

Dude...if the gear would hold his fat ass, it'd be B O M B E R

[pink]

i'd rather donate money.

[pink]

po wall or south seas then....now i'm just guessing

 

 

your getting warmer. they say it was the seventh assent when i did it in 98'.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

hey, i'm trying to contribute something here. i put it in spray because this is what climbers do when there not climbing, they talk about it. you probably won't know the answer being alot of the pro is body weight only and that might not apply to your mountain hoofing fat ass.

 

 

just ignore "it", pink... and keep on trucking

 

[David Trippett]

new dawn

 

 

[pink]

new dawn

 

 

to the right

[David Trippett]

i know! i know!....it's an el cap route somewhere between new dawn and south seas !!

[hefeweizen]

po wall or south seas then....now i'm just guessing

 

 

your getting warmer. they say it was the seventh assent when i did it in 98'.

I didn't know they kept track up to "seventh."

[pink]

po wall or south seas then....now i'm just guessing

 

 

your getting warmer. they say it was the seventh assent when i did it in 98'.

I didn't know they kept track up to "seventh."

 

i guess they get pretty bored in the valley, anyway this isn't the fucking nose or the zodiac.do you think they keep track of everest assents?

 

Edited November 16, 2007 by pink

[Off_White]

On hard aid routes? You bet they do, and the issue of later ascents that add holes, enhance hook placements, break out the chisel, or apply a hammer to a pitch that's been done clean is hotly contested.

[hefeweizen]

On hard aid routes? You bet they do, and the issue of later ascents that add holes, enhance hook placements, break out the chisel, or apply a hammer to a pitch that's been done clean is hotly contested.

 

That all makes sense, but it's the same with free climbing. Adding a bolt to an established trad route would be hot no matter which ascent you made.

 

And I bet some knucklehead keeps track of everest ascents.

[Off_White]

oh, and in terms of an educated guess, if it was the 7th ascent in 98, it couldn't be Mescalito, and I wouldn't think it was either the original Wall of the Early Morning Light or Space. You haven't shown signs of being enough of an aid obsessive for it to be Reticent Wall. Hockey Night in Canada maybe?

[pink]

On hard aid routes? You bet they do, and the issue of later ascents that add holes, enhance hook placements, break out the chisel, or apply a hammer to a pitch that's been done clean is hotly contested.

 

That all makes sense, but it's the same with free climbing. Adding a bolt to an established trad route would be hot no matter which ascent you made.

 

And I bet some knucklehead keeps track of everest ascents.

 

of course someone keeps track of everest accents?

[Off_White]

Hef, I actually think it makes more sense. Modifying aid climbs makes the climbing itself easier, whereas adding bolts to free climbs makes the protection easier and the moves less committing, but the actual difficulty of the climb doesn't change. Add a bolt to a run out free climb, maybe you'll take a 20 footer instead of a 50 footer. Add a bolt to a hard aid pitch, and maybe you'll survive the fall instead of dying.

 

Merely academic to me though, I'm not a wall aficionado.

[David Trippett]

Hef, meet knucklehead...

 

 

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[pink]

oh, and in terms of an educated guess, if it was the 7th ascent in 98, it couldn't be Mescalito, and I wouldn't think it was either the original Wall of the Early Morning Light or Space. You haven't shown signs of being enough of an aid obsessive for it to be Reticent Wall. Hockey Night in Canada maybe?

 

 

a), b), c) and or d). why wouldn't you think what?

Edited November 16, 2007 by pink

[Off_White]

She doesn't look like anyone I'd call Knucklehead to her face, no sir.

[Off_White]

oh, and in terms of an educated guess, if it was the 7th ascent in 98, it couldn't be Mescalito, and I wouldn't think it was either the original Wall of the Early Morning Light or Space. You haven't shown signs of being enough of an aid obsessive for it to be Reticent Wall. Hockey Night in Canada maybe?

 

 

a), b), c) and or d). why wouldn't you think what?

 

Maybe my reasoning is wrong, like I say, I'm not a wall guy. but here's what passes for thought..

 

a)Mescalito - While it would seem to be the pick hit in that region of the big stone, it must have had more than 7 ascents by 1998, since at that time it was already 25 years old. Still, your position most suggests that route.

 

b)Wall of the Early Morning Light - Bottom part is supposed to be sort of "ehhh" and the position doesn't seem quite right. Historic, but not sexy.

 

c)Space - not really sure where it goes, but it doesn't get much press. On the otherhand, I'd believe it hadn't had a seventh ascent until 98.

 

d)Reticent Wall - kind of a hardman route, I'd think you'd have shown more wall spray here if that was your cup of tea.

 

Hockey Night? It's a Mescalito variant, isn't it? Odd enough to not get a 7th until 98? Yah, well, what do I know. You can wait until someone names it with confidence, then tell me where my guesses go wrong.

 

Nice pic though, I've always loved those angles.