jordop Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Anybody know anything about these? http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=230119&bmUID=1033148534746 Always weary of cheap tools like the one piece head on the DMM fly, but these seem to have all the right stuff in the right places from significantly less $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 They are made for ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 "Oh gawd, yer usin VERTIGES!!!" - overheard in Yoho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 One alternative is good tools cheap... Barrabes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 quote: Originally posted by jordop: Always weary of cheap tools like the one piece head on the DMM fly. The Fly is actually a pretty nice tool. I wouldn't describe anything made by DMM as "cheap". The workmanship is impeccable. With regard to the Mountain Technology tools, I haven't used them, but know the company is reputable. The Scots do know a few things about ice-climbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 I actually think the Fly is a good tool as well. Better than paying 500$ for some Cobras if you ask me. It aint the tool it's the climber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 $ [ 09-27-2002, 11:30 AM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Serl Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 moral dilemma: i WORK for MEC - but i'm a climber, and i've been asked a question about a piece of gear. i've got some unflattering experience. what do i do? that's easy... a few years ago i participated in an ice-tool demo on the base of 'stairway to heaven' before the outdoor retailer show in salt lake. there were dozens of tools and crampons available to take for a cruise. an hour or so of swinging the vertige convinced me this was the worst ice tool i had ever handled. it felt very 'mechanical' when you placed it, it required a 'tugging' swing to set properly, and it invariably stuck and had to be fought loose. conversations with a few of the other participants confirmed my opinion. one of my buddies owns a pair (fortunately, recently retired), so i hope he doesn't read this thread, but do yourself a favour and take a pass. let somebody else buy 'em. how does it go? the sting of poor quality lingers long after the glow of low price wears off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fence_Sitter Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 i'll second DMM flys they are the same price...and although i haven't used the tools you mentioned...i know that the Fly's have a good track record and swing real nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 G-$ Awwwwwww yeeeeaaaahhhhhh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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