Bronco Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 While cleaning my garage last weekend, I came across a stack of literature, disclosures and warnings that came with climbing gear I obtained over the last year or so. I always put the paperwork in the pile to be looked at “later” (when the weather gets like it is). Anyway, I noticed the bottom line of the paper for my wife’s Grivel G-10 crampons says “ Crampons can be damaged by walking on rocks or running on the teleferique’s concrete stairs”. I am 100% serious people!! We probably would not have selected these crampons knowing this. My questions to you are – What the hell is a teleferique? Is this justification for returning the Crampons? If you can’t run on the concrete stairs in the teleferique, why bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfort Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 Lucky, for you, you don't need to worry about this, unless you go to Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crack_addict Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 it is a gondola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dbb Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 They're just covering the "worst case" scenario. I've run up many a teleferique in my G-10s (along with plenty of walking on rocks) and they're still kickin'! My only complaint was that they G-10s came dull-as-shit out of the box. I decided the best time to sharpen them was in a jump seat, with a leatherman, on the way to Liberty Ridge. Ugh, I might as well have been eating bad mexican food--same effect ya know... I would say that dullness is good reason to send em back (aside from them being great crampons). If you can't fully lacerate your skin with them out of the box, when will you be able to????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfort Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 quote: Originally posted by dbb: I decided the best time to sharpen them was in a jump seat, with a leatherman, on the way to Liberty Ridge. Ugh, I might as well have been eating bad mexican food--same effect ya know... You start to remove your clothes when you eat Mexican food?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.E Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 Scott, Where did you score the cool poster jpg? Are there more at some site? I'm looking for Chamonix posters. Neat screensavers. I spent a couple weeks there this year and saw the posters and postcards everywhere but scanning is only option I've figured so far. (btw, it rained alot when we were there). I always take my crampons off running for the telepherique. Wearing them makes you look like Jacques Bonjet! Watch your axe too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Dr.E: Scott, Where did you score the cool poster jpg? Are there more at some site? I'm looking for Chamonix posters. Neat screensavers. I spent a couple weeks there this year and saw the posters and postcards everywhere but scanning is only option I've figured so far. http://postercollector.net/Posters/more specificallyhttp://postercollector.net/Posters/pages/Teleferique%20%20du%20Beout.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.E Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 thx scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted December 4, 2001 Author Share Posted December 4, 2001 Thanks for your help guys. I wonder if any crampons out there are approved for running on concrete stairs. Maybe some of the crampons designed with the mixed climbing in mind would be ok for this type of an activity. How do climbers in Europe train for these routes? They should have it rated like the Teleferique Du Beout goes at TC (teleconcrete) IV or somthing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 The special ice comp crampons that are just frontpoints on a shoe work well for concrete stair running as long as you can run on your heels or facing backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Dr.E: thx scottMore:http://www.prints-posters.com/dia147.htm http://www.barewalls.com/product/artwork.exe?ItemID=8202&zoom=1&njs=1 http://www.barewalls.com/product/artwork.exe?ItemID=8298&zoom=1&njs=1 http://www.barewalls.com/product/artwork.exe?ItemID=8285&zoom=1&njs=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.E Posted December 5, 2001 Share Posted December 5, 2001 really thx scott! those are the ones i wanted as you see them in cham and I had one big one framed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_the_Menace Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 Wearing crampons on concrete, now that would be stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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