Klimber Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I just posted this thread and have decided on a 65cm ice axe. Now I need to decide on what brand and model. I am thinking the BD Raven Pro. Anyone have suggestions? http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/649135/page/1#Post649135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 http://www.mtntools.com/cat/alpineice/axes/grivelairtechevoiceaxe.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counterfeitfake Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 yeah dude, go for the voice axe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counterfeitfake Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Are you sure you're going to be very interested in mountaineering? If you are not absolutely sure (or even if you are) going cheap makes good sense. If you find you love climbing you'll be able to figure out what you really want in an axe and then go buy it next year. Buy something used off the yardsale or CL. Heck I've got a Raven I'll sell you (I think it's a 60?) if you live near Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepires Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 what kind of climbing do you see yourself doing in 5 years? alpine ice? glacier travel? gnar-gnar? I would say, keep it light but keep it durable. all steel head and light shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klimber Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 yeah, I will be interested in mountianeering. going cheap, would a raven pro fit that bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klimber Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 alpine ice? probably glacier travel? yeah gnar-gnar? not sure, what is it? all steel - I guess a raven pro is out then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderfour Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 The Airtech Evo is light, has a steel head and will climb some ice. The curve in the shaft adds some "oomph" for self-arrest. If you like the grip of the BD, you might look at the new Venom ice axe with replacable pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbconlin Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 raven pro is a great general mountaineering axe (and has an all-steel head), as is the regular raven for a few less bucks and only slightly heavier. for more technical routes, the air tech evo is a great axe, but it is spendy and if you aren't going to need it's technical prowess, probably not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyang Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Kind of tangential, but the new grivel air tech racing has a steel spike and slight curve to the shaft. The head is chromoly and looks mostly the same as the air tech evo, except that the pick is a bit thinner and has bevels in the teeth (like a technical pick). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatinoutliquor Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I've found that the grips on BD axes (raven with grip, Venom, etc) get all dinged up if you are plunging the spike in, or using it cane style on firm neve. Just a thought, but I think the grips aren't really worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klimber Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 thanks very much for your help, I have ordered the BD Raven Pro 65cm. Hopefully it will be the right size but if not I will exchange it out. And if I get really into technical climbing then I will certainly look at the voice axe. Again, thanks your input was very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanO Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 I like the old school style of axes of the newer short length. Go for steel head type. Light is nice on the trail, though you may crap your pants on steep ice, frenching with a nasty drop below you. I look at the lighter axes but the above situation in mind keeps my old trusty steel axe, guide weight on my pack. The old school axes have the straight point on the bottom end, I prefer it to the newer style for frenching. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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