iciclespyder Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 its got nothing to do with the sperm doner. You must be a woman to make that statement. no, just aa enthusiastic donor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 If you're going to argue that a woman's decision to have an abortion is a personal choice, then you should also be willing to accept all her other personal choices that affect that child, right? If her hubby is ok with it and she is, then mutter under your breath all you want and shake your head if you please but keep your nose out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogen Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I don't think being pregnant automatically makes a woman a good decision maker. In my experience, it is often the opposite However, I don't think this is the case in this instance. Maintaining an active lifestyle, and raising a child in that environment as a matter of principle earns my full endorsment. Go Aimee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 If you're going to argue that a woman's decision to have an abortion is a personal choice, then you should also be willing to accept all her other personal choices that affect that child, right? If her hubby is ok with it and she is, then mutter under your breath all you want and shake your head if you please but keep your nose out of it. Exactly! I mean, as long as she gets her husband's permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 If you're going to argue that a woman's decision to have an abortion is a personal choice, then you should also be willing to accept all her other personal choices that affect that child, right? If her hubby is ok with it and she is, then mutter under your breath all you want and shake your head if you please but keep your nose out of it. Does this include speedballs and meth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 meth is explicitly excluded under Marital Rules section 103b item iv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 arch, come on--what about the meth exception under subsection 646 part xiii? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 If you're going to argue that a woman's decision to have an abortion is a personal choice, then you should also be willing to accept all her other personal choices that affect that child, right? If her hubby is ok with it and she is, then mutter under your breath all you want and shake your head if you please but keep your nose out of it. Exactly! I mean, as long as she gets her husband's permission. So if a husband engages in activities that threaten his precious 'sperm bank', does he need to get the wife's permission first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strumpett Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 So if a husband engages in activities that threaten his precious 'sperm bank', does he need to get the wife's permission first? Depends on how serious you are about having children! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 i have always equated climbing to meth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 (edited) Minx - I think we aren’t too far apart on this issue. Nothing I have said can be construed as being against being active while pregnant. You say "I just don't agree with that approach." Meaning limiting activity during pregnancy yet your own Dr. was only comfortable if you rode your horse in a "limited fashion." The day our first child was born I received a phone call from my wife saying she felt ‘weird’... my advice was to go take a walk. Exercise is great. We decided that hiking in rough muddy terrain where slips and slides were to be expected should be avoided. The thought of being stuck out several miles from nowhere all alone with my very pregnant wife having a seriously twisted ankle was something we thought not worth the risk given the relatively meager benefit. I am simply saying lead climbing seems to be outside the scope of riding a horse in a "limited fashion." Cheers, Edited January 5, 2007 by Peter_Puget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 PP- limited fashion meant that i limited myself to doing what felt comfortable. it's a personal choice. i think that it would and should be left to the woman to understand how she is feeling physically and what her limitations are. i would assume that this gal felt safe and comfortable. accidents happen, even to pregnant women who aren't participating in sports. Sure it's possible she could've fallen but apparently this was familiar oft climbed route for her. i'm not sure that the risk level of that is much different or higher than taking a fall off a bicycle or horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I think it all comes down to personal choice. How do we do know the fetus didn't agree to go lead climbing? In fact, how do we know that fetus isn't in there controlling the mother by pulling on levers and pushing buttons like a storm trooper in an Imperial Walker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counterfeitfake Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Helmet might be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strumpett Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Helmet might be nice. If the sperm donor would have worn a helmet, this conversation would not be taking place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counterfeitfake Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 It's pronounced "condom". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 may have been a condominimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 or con-dumb in this case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counterfeitfake Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 She's lead climbing, but she should have placed pro a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 looks to me like she is reaching the anchor of a top rope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 And I think she's wearing those shoes with the velcro on the top. Don't those just bug ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I'm down wit pregnint bitches clamBin n all, butt skeein tights over dat wide load? Now dat's in da realm o public polcy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 She may as well get used to censure; she won't be allowed to breast feed just anywhere, you know!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 yeah, she should think of her unborn child before donning those ugly things. Think of the misguided fashion sense she's communicating to the innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counterfeitfake Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 looks to me like she is reaching the anchor of a top rope Yeah, because THAT's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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