Mr_Sleazy Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Hello Squamish climbers and backcountry users: The Stawamus road that goes up behind the Chief and over to Indian Arm has been closed and gated now for a couple of years, ostensibly due to a bridge washout. The Squamish Forest District website lists this info on their page: STAWAMUS/ INDIAN RIVER Wilderness Forest Service Road Closed - no public access; bridge out at approximately 16.5km ** no anticipated opening date ** The road is barricaded and gated just above the chlorine shack on the Mamquam, and the only way through now is on foot, or with a mountain or dirt bike. The District has spent mucho $$$ on installing boulder blockades and ditching to prevent 4x4 access. The Stawamus / Indian is a major access point for some very good climbing. Included on the list: The south face of Habrich (Life on Earth and other good routes) Sky Pilot and Ledge Mtn (very important alpine area) Fluffy Kitten Wall on the NE side of Habrich The Solarium (yes its shorter and less elevation to go in from behind the Chief) Also lots of winter ice up in the Stawamus Valley I am urging climbers to email the Squamish Forest District and voice their concern over the closure of this road. It is very close to becoming a permanent closure, though when it started the District said it would be temporary. Please email the Squamish Forest District [Forests.SquamishDistrictOffice@gov.bc.ca] to let them know. To make it easier, you may wish to cut and paste the following message into your email: Hello: I am emailing to voice my concern over the continued closure of the Stawamus / Indian FSR, currently gated close to the bottom of the road. This road is a major recreational access point to alpine and subalpine climbing terrain, and is very important to the climbing community. Closure of access roads to backcountry areas substantially increases use impacts to frontcountry areas, such as the Stawamus Provincial Park, as recreational users are confined to more restricted locations. I strongly urge you to re-open this road. Thank you in advance for your consideration. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Sleazy Posted October 24, 2006 Author Share Posted October 24, 2006 Thanks to whichever mod made this sticky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 i guess you'll have to get a bit more fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxhasson Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 yeah, that's a long walk to habrich. went back there two summers ago and it seemed like barely enough climbing to justify the trek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gertlush Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Mountain bike is the key...I got my bush pig for $50 at the Salvation Army and all I had to do was replace the brakes...sucks to push it up hill but at least you can ride down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat_Roslyn Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I would be against openning the road. This summer we mt biked up to fluffy kitten wall to the wonderful thing about tiggers, it was probably the nicest climb I've ever done, really fun! One of the greatest things about it was that there was no one else around! It was a nice change to the zoo of other crags closer to the road (not that it's unexpected). Gertlush is right, such a fast & fun ride back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordop Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I would be against openning the road. This summer we mt biked up to fluffy kitten wall to the wonderful thing about tiggers, it was probably the nicest climb I've ever done, really fun! One of the greatest things about it was that there was no one else around! It was a nice change to the zoo of other crags closer to the road (not that it's unexpected). Gertlush is right, such a fast & fun ride back. No one goes there anyway, regardless of the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmace Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 ya good idea I mean that road only goes to fluffy kitten any ways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gertlush Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 It's ok to go into that area right, it's not closed to all people? i.e. they just don't want Johnny 4x4 heading in there with a case of Kokanee? Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat_Roslyn Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 ya good idea I mean that road only goes to fluffy kitten any ways... I have a different opinion, I like that the area is a little harder to access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I think this is a key point to Sleazy's post: Closure of access roads to backcountry areas substantially increases use impacts to frontcountry areas, such as the Stawamus Provincial Park, as recreational users are confined to more restricted locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devinejohnny Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 I went up to do Life on Earth on Habrich last weekend. We brought our mtn bikes for the occasion, but on a scouting trip the night before we decided to just walk in. We had planed on spending a few days back in the Shannon Creek Valley, so we had all of our climbing and camping gear, making out panniers and packs just too heave to push up half the way. It would be nice to have the bikes for the coast out, but most of the trail is seriously fuct and it would be more trouble than it’s worth (maybe it’s smoother to Fluffy Kitten?). I’ll post some picts that we took so you can see the conditions. The last 2km of trail are in real bad shape; very overgrown. It rained for three days, so we did not get to do any climbing, but it was nice to be at a climbing location in Squamish and not see anyone for three days. Very rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matosan Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I emailed as per the post. thanks for setting this up. matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoked Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 The road closure may have something to do with the introduction of elk in the area, to prevent disturbance as they re-establish their territory. They were extirpated by hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougBrownVancouver Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Thanks for setting this up. I also emailed as per the post and added the following personal statement. I first climbed Sky Pilot in 1992 after driving all the way to the end of the spur road. Since that time I have climbed in that area approximately every other year with constantly decreasing access. Both historically and recreationally this area is very important. I find it hard to believe that Squamish is trying to position itself as the recreation capital of Canada and is at the same time closing access to the closest and some of the best almost alpine granite in the area (Haybrich is a real gem). If cost is part of the equation limiting access please advertise that fact to the outdoor community because I think that people may be willing to step up to the fundraising plate to ensure access to such an important recreation area. Doug Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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