archenemy Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 That was exactly the point, Archy. Ten years ago, we didn't have cc.com and few of us chatted on a daily basis the way many of us do now. Thanks for the clarification counselor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 I think you've smoked yourself retarded if you believe there are any gentlemen here. Â I think you snorted yourself retarded if you think gentlemen actually go to gentlemens clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I think you've smoked yourself retarded if you believe there are any gentlemen here. Â I think you snorted yourself retarded if you think gentlemen actually go to gentlemens clubs. Wow, I've been bamboozled! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Whether Harry wants to debate the meaning of a "club" or not, there is a definite affiliation thing going at cc.com. Half of my climbing partners stay away from this site, or perhaps lurk but don't post. They are not cc.com'ers. The other half of my partners appear here on a regular basis. They are. Harry is one of the club's elder statesmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Pub Club is *not* a club. Â Or is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Whether Harry wants to debate the meaning of a "club" or not, there is a definite affiliation thing going at cc.com. Half of my climbing partners stay away from this site, or perhaps lurk but don't post. They are not cc.com'ers. The other half of my partners appear here on a regular basis. They are. Harry is one of the club's elder statesmen. Well, I guess you can either be right or have friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 tomtom - we have a secret handshake and everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 I don't have any friends, so I guess that means I'm right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 So the quesion remains: are people who waste lots of time on cc.com more prone to having climbing accidents than the mountaineers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Do you think there is a positive or negative correlation between number of posts, and number of accidents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I'm not only the president, I'm also a client! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Before I started posting on cc.com: Â After I became an Administrator on cc.om: Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 So the quesion remains: are people who waste lots of time on cc.com more prone to having climbing accidents than the mountaineers? Â Mark Twight would say yes: in the time they were spraying, they could have been training! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 So the quesion remains: are people who waste lots of time on cc.com more prone to having climbing accidents than the mountaineers? Â I think climbers that post on cc.com are more diverse as far as ability and preferred types of climbing than Mountaineers. "[P]eople who waste time on cc.com" are such a cross-section of the climbing community, that I don't see any real relevance to such a question. I guess that's what Dru was trying to point out when he said that cc.com posters includes Mountaineers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 mattp is currently preparing a suit against cc.com for contributing to his client's recent accident. be careful what you say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I think climbers that post on cc.com are more diverse as far as ability and preferred types of climbing than Mountaineers. "[P]eople who waste time on cc.com" are such a cross-section of the climbing community, that I don't see any real relevance to such a question. I guess that's what Dru was trying to point out when he said that cc.com posters includes Mountaineers. Â Comeone harry, of course there's relevance in comparing people who desire a structured methodical climbing community that requires $ and time to a ragtag website that requires 15 seconds to register. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 anyway, the term "waste lots of time on cc.om" is pretty subjective. anything could really be a waste of time. going to work everyday for instance. perhaps spending time on cc.com is the path to enlightenment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I rode the bus with the pretty much the same people for 4 years from West Seattle to downtown. It was the coolest bus riding club I've ever been a member of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I rode the bus with the pretty much the same people for 4 years from West Seattle to downtown. It was the coolest bus riding club I've ever been a member of. Â and the shortest bus too? but it had really clean windows, right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 they let us wear special coats and a nice nurse fed me apple sauce. it was pretty much the best 4 years of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 I think climbers that post on cc.com are more diverse as far as ability and preferred types of climbing than Mountaineers. "[P]eople who waste time on cc.com" are such a cross-section of the climbing community, that I don't see any real relevance to such a question. I guess that's what Dru was trying to point out when he said that cc.com posters includes Mountaineers. Â Comeone harry, of course there's relevance in comparing people who desire a structured methodical climbing community that requires $ and time to a ragtag website that requires 15 seconds to register. Â Perhaps a better comparison, then, would be between the climbing community as a whole and the Mountaineers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 they let us wear special coats and a nice nurse fed me apple sauce. it was pretty much the best 4 years of my life. Â And you guys got let out of school two hours early and had class in a room down in the basement by the boiler room, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Whether it’s a club or not is missing the point. The perception is that people who are identified as posters cc.com have an inordinately high accident rate. Given the very small number of consistent cc.com posters the accident rate does seem very high to me. Compare the thousands of Mounties to the handfull of regular cc.com posters involved in accidents and come to your own conclusion about how the rates compare.  The Mountianeers are not some monolithic group. There are varied interests and abilities as in every large group. I very rarely run into Mountaineers while climbing. When I do it seems to be the same few Mounties (always small groups – two or three people) time after time. We seem to share some of the same interests. Posts wanking on how Mounties were clogging the routes and trampling the enviroment seem to indicate to me that there is great overlap of interests between significant numbers of cc.comers and Mounties.  I guess I should note that "I am not and have never been a Mountaineer." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Whether it’s a club or not is missing the point. The perception is that people who are identified as posters cc.com have an inordinately high accident rate. Given the very small number of consistent cc.com posters the accident rate does seem very high to me. Compare the thousands of Mounties to the handfull of regular cc.com posters involved in accidents and come to your own conclusion about how the rates compare. oh goody, it's another perception post. I knew you were a closet lefty pp. Cc.com has 10,000+ members. Perhaps you'd care to share your source for the statistics? Or why you chose to ignore the mountaineers climbing classes required to go on mounties classes? Or XYZ factors that change your data? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 of 10493 registered posters, how many had accidents within the last month? Â of xxxx PNW climbers who are NOT registered on cc.com, how many had accidents within the last month? Â of the total membership of Mountiedom, how many had accidents within the last month? Â Are these percentages statistically different or could it just be that when someone on cc.com has an accident you hear about it? Â I can think of two accidents last weekend that involved non cc.com, non Mounties. Maybe it was just a bad weekend to be outside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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