korup Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Do people still plan on climbing with their non-recalled Aliens? I know I now have little/no faith in any of 'em. My life is worth more than a reverse engineered monkey-ass product that has a poor safety record and very poor QA/QC. Yeah, yeah, I know I can dispose of them at addresses X,Y, and Z.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderfour Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 If you have such a low opinion of them, why did you ever purchase the product in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korup Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Hehehe. Well, I never did purchase any for the reasons I stated above. I am thinking more about whether or not partners will pull 'em..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Depending on what we learn about problems with earlier production runs, I will very likely continue to use my older ones. They have worked very well for me in "pull-testing." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climbnsparky Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 i returned all of mine only one of them had the "dot" but the others were built around the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemp22 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 there's a new recall FAQ on the CCH website: http://www.aliencamsbycch.com/recall/faq.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korup Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 From the FAQ, Â CCH is currently working on implementing an ISO 9000 quality management system. To prevent this specific issue we are pull testing every brazed cable to the specified strength rating. You can verify that the new CCH Alien cams manufactured after January 2006 have completed cable pull testing by locating an "L", "U" or "N" punch on the head of the cam. We have also implemented new jig testing to verify that Alien cams meet specified tolerances. Â The fact that they are *working on implementing* ISO 9000 and *implementing* tests of their tolerances for manufacture means (IMHO) that ALL earlier cams are HIGHLY suspect. I am not trying to troll, I just think folks need to seriously think about what this means for whatever is on their rack.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 The fact that they are *working on implementing* ISO 9000 and *implementing* tests of their tolerances for manufacture means (IMHO) that ALL earlier cams are HIGHLY suspect. Â If you haven't fallen on your original/early design aliens yet you need to donate them to someone who will actually use them. Â A more or less spotless equipment history to date is plenty for me... maybe for the rest of you living in a plastic bubble it isn't but that's your choice. Â Send me your old aliens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackers Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I've been told that it's going to take us a year and a half to achieve ISO 9001 out at my factory in Turkey. So, 'working on implementing' could just be that they've got the process book together, but they haven't had it running for that time yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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