thatcher Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 I'm looking for a good, reasonably cheap pair ($150 or so) of snowshoes for winter ascents. Me and my pack usually end up weighing at least 270lbs. any suggestions on good brands? whats with the MSR plastic snowshoes? are those better/worse/good for somethings and not for others? PM me or just post here if you have any ideas. thanks, Quote
olyclimber Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 the size/type of snowshoe you really need depends on the snow conditions. for $150, I think that the plastic MSRs are good...if you can spring for more then those new "Lightening" MSR snow shoes are about a pound lighter. Quote
rhyang Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 The weight difference of lightnings over denali's are a couple of ounces to a half pound per pair, not much. There is more of a difference in performance and the bindings. I have denali ascents and last spring had the opportunity to compare with the lightning ascent's. The denali's sidehill pretty well, but the lightning's are even better at it. Quote
catbirdseat Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 If you are that heavy, I'd have a hard time recommending Denalis. I like how they perform but they just don't hold up under heavy loads and don't provide enough floatation at times. Quote
rhyang Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 I'm not a big guy but have managed to pop one of the rear rivets off that holds on the flotation tails (replaced it with a stove bolt). Someone with a larger build told me that the 8" tails are no longer recommended for that reason. Quote
John Frieh Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 I don't know how much you weight but if you have to carry a pack that heavy chances are (assuming it is an option) pulling it on a sled is much faster. MSR Quote
wdietsch Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Until you have to sidehill, that is. or need to work your way through brush and trees Quote
cj001f Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Until you have to sidehill, that is. or need to work your way through brush and trees Which is the reason to want snowshoes. Unless you can't ski, then Quote
thatcher Posted November 2, 2005 Author Posted November 2, 2005 I'm 220lb, but my pack ranges from 40 to 60lb, depending on the gear needed Quote
John Frieh Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Everyone makes good points... sidehilling, brush and trees all suck with a sled. I was guessing you were asking for shoes for your upcoming climb on Shasta (correct?)... if so consider a sled. Sounds like most people like MSR... Quote
kioti Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 For coastal snow pack, it seems like the MSR shoes are great, even without the tails. I personally prefer the Atlas shoes (12 series with ratcheting binding) because they are WAY more comfortable to walk with. Sorry, NOLSe, I just had to defend another brand other than MSR MSR is doing a life time warranty on their shoes now, which is huge. They are also still made in Seattle; Huger. I've seen fewer warranty problems with MSR than Atlas; Hugest. As long as you stay away from Crescent moon, Tubbs, Redfeather, you'll be fine. Alan Quote
robert Posted November 3, 2005 Posted November 3, 2005 The MSR snowshoes have some great features, but I really like my Atlas 1230's. They are a bit heavier, but they can take almost any abuse you through at them. The binding system is just awesome too. They are more than $150 though. You might be able to find the used online. Quote
ketch Posted November 3, 2005 Posted November 3, 2005 I have a pair of the Denali Ascents. The Televator is a good feature. I did a while on the Lightnings last year. Nicer than my shoes and way quieter. The fabric decks beat the plastic. But the add on tails help in softer stuff where the lightnings don't accept them. In the end Slowshoes are just that and it isn't worth my money to upgrade. If you can find a $150 MSR anything have at it and enjoy. Quote
thatcher Posted November 3, 2005 Author Posted November 3, 2005 yeah, this would be partly for shasta, but i need a good pair for other winter ascents this year such as hood and rainier and even some so cal mountains. can the denali ascents with the extention hold 270 or so pounds with ease, or do they sink in pretty good? Quote
Ovr40 Posted November 3, 2005 Posted November 3, 2005 If you plan to do a lot of climbing in them, take a look at shoes by TSL. The are plastics, like the MSRs, and they are set up pretty well for steeper slopes. With good frontpoints, replaceable spikes, and a bale to raise the heel, I've kept them on after my companions have switched to crampons (which proved handy as conditions varied between snow and ice). They are available in a variety of binding styles. I've used mine for several years and been very pleased. Negatives? Here are a few: 1. Being plastic, they make plastic squeeky noises (acceptable in a blowup doll, but annoying in a snowshoe), 2. They don't float well on soft snow. (But they are great for the kinds of snow we see most of the time in the Cascades), 3. Finding them may be difficult. The are big in Europe (number one or two selling brand) but distribution in the U.S. has been inconsistent. I think one of the larger shoe manufacturers or distributors now owns the U.S. distribution rights. Next Adventure in Portland had some last year (I don't know which models.) Quote
ketch Posted November 3, 2005 Posted November 3, 2005 Ya they do pretty well. I am right at 180 lbs and usually have 25 - 45 lbs in the pack. In most cases of Cascade concrete I am good without the tails. When I add the tails it is pretty good even in whatever we call powder around here. If you truly are in the 270+ range I think you may need tails more often. If you get a chance to try them out that is good. But also remember that sinking in a bit is always going to happen. You just don't want to posthole with an anchor on your foot. Quote
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