Baker routes

[mtn_mouse]

I climbed Baker many years ago, by the coleman glacier and the roman wall. Friends and I are planning it again ,but by the easten glacier. Is the route I took the coleman/deming route? and also, does the easton route end up right about the same place on the upper mountain, or is it an entirely different route??

[Dru]

1) yes

 

2) entirely different

[mtn_mouse]

Thanks dru dude.

As I said, it was a long time ago and alseimers is setting in.

[PeterC]

Actually, I'm pretty sure that while the Easton and Coleman-Deming are totally different on the lower section, they join up at the Roman Wall. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so.

[mtn_mouse]

Looking at the route directions and map they look close, when they go above 9000', but I couldn't be sure.

[Dru]

i thought the c-d goes to the true summit and the easton ends up on the sherman peak or whatever, on the other side of the crater?

[PeterC]

Yeah, I vaguely remember going up close to the crater before heading up the roman wall when I climbed the Easton 10yrs ago. I guess it's kind of a semantic issue - if you want to climb the Easton to the main summit, I'm pretty sure you'll go up the roman wall, but perhaps the "Easton route" technically ends on a lower summit.

[pzack]

Yeah, I vaguely remember going up close to the crater before heading up the roman wall when I climbed the Easton 10yrs ago. I guess it's kind of a semantic issue - if you want to climb the Easton to the main summit, I'm pretty sure you'll go up the roman wall, but perhaps the "Easton route" technically ends on a lower summit.

 

If you're going to the true summit, then both routes share the same final snow slope to the summit. On the C-D route, you'll be on the left hand side of that slope while you climb to the summit. On the Easton route, you'll be on the right hand side (getting on it after passing the crater rim).

[DPS]

I did the easton last saturday. We did not finish via the roman wall, but we were relatively close to it.

[Alex]

The Coleman-Deming heads up the Roman Wall, while the Easton gains the summit plateau further to the East, with (typically) an ascending rigtwards traverse up a final steep (and crevassed!) slope. Both routes are summit routes. HTH! Alex

[Jason_Martin]

The Coleman-Deming goes up the Roman Wall above the Pumice Ridge, whereas the Easton goes up the Roman Wall above the crater. The entire upper slope of both routes is known collectively as the Roman Wall.

 

Jason

[Dru]

It IS the Roman Wall

No It isn't

Yes it is!

etc.

!

[DPS]

The Coleman-Deming goes up the Roman Wall above the Pumice Ridge, whereas the Easton goes up the Roman Wall above the crater. The entire upper slope of both routes is known collectively as the Roman Wall.

 

Jason

Good to know.

[Alex]

It IS the Roman Wall

No It isn't

Yes it is!

etc.

!

 

It goes to the summit!

No it doesnt!

Yes it does!

I thought it ended on Sherman Peak?

[Dru]

Also, why is it called the "Roman Wall" when it's only 35 degrees at maximum? Some wall

[Alex]

No wonder Rome fell to a bunch of Germans.

[graupel]

Doesn't this sound a little like a Monty Python sketch?

 

Did you come here for an argument?

[mtn_mouse]

Monty Python: Your mother is a hampster, and your father smells of elderberry.

 

Thanks for all the comments on the two routes. It clears up my questions., well all but one; is it ok to wear shorts over polypro?

[Dru]

only if you don't mind looking like a right wanker

[ketch]

Hey mouse, it's only ok to wear shorts over Polypro if you tie them to your essentials.

 

One other note to the route thing. If you do the C-D late season it gets pretty icy on the wall. It sometimes easier to traverse from the top of the pumice ridge and finish via the Easton. Of course if it's that bad there is usually some pretty big openings in the traverse too.

[Norman_Clyde]

Our party went up Sherman on 5/12 via the Squak, just East of the Easton. Squak is a bit more direct and has fewer crevasses. We saw one party of two climbers head toward the summit from the Easton, then inexplicably turn around shortly after. Could be they ran into a maze of impassable crevasses at Coleman Saddle but this seems unlikely. From Sherman the upper C-D route was a smooth line with no obstacles at all on the Roman Wall, I mean East of the Roman Wall, I mean West of the Crater, I mean...