Dr_Crash Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 Anybody tried it? http://www.patagonia.com/za/PDC?OPTION=PRODUCT&merchant_rn=7385&sku=83971&ws=false Quite lightweight (16.5 oz), waterproof, synthetic insulation. Warm enough for here as an emerency jacket? drC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hohm Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 The Moonstone Cirrus is a similar jacket, but lighter, cheaper, and packs smaller than the Micro Puff. My Cirrus is my favorite layer, as it fits me like a glove, and can be either an outer layer or an inner layer. It is surprisingly warm, and gives a little extra padding for sleeping in on cold nights. http://www.moonstone.com/d_ins.asp?id=084629 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I had an old Puffball and walked into the patagonia store with it on. It exuded a large amount of horror and disbelief that I could trash a jacket so badly that they took it from me and gave me a new one...now called the micro puff. The micropuff, along with a dri-clime windshirt (whatever brand you choose for either) are almost essential articles of clothing in my climbing pack. I can get away with a micro puff and/or a dri-clime windshirt all summer long. As for winter use, both are essential for me too. The dri-clime creates a micro-climate as my layer over my silkweight poly-pro and acts as a windproof high-exertion layer on approaches. The micro-puff is my warm climbing layer since it fills out dead airspaces under a hard or soft shell top. It is a much much better layer than fleece or wool since it is much warmer for the weight and packs down better too. On hot ice days, it stays in my pack, unnoticably light. So basically the thing is the perfect weight to temp ratio. One could argue endlessly about the differences between types of insulation (polarguard delta in the patagonia...primaloft one in others...etc...). Moonstone also makes what is called a lucid jacket which is a super duper lightweight down jacket that is a good deal warmer and lighter than the synthetic micro puff. I almost pro-dealed one until i got the hook-up with patagonia. Now, i'm glad i did, b/c i think it would've gotten soaked. I would rather have the lucid for summertime since it won't get wet and is lighter and warmer. If you're buying to last, I'd go with the patagonia on all clothing items b/c you can return it easier than you can return shit at REI. the returnability is built into the price tag, which you may notice is much steeper, but worth it in the long run and you can buy it from anywhere and still return it. -Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Crash Posted November 5, 2004 Author Share Posted November 5, 2004 The Moonstone Cirrus is a similar jacket, but lighter, cheaper, and packs smaller than the Micro Puff. My Cirrus is my favorite layer, as it fits me like a glove, and can be either an outer layer or an inner layer. It is surprisingly warm, and gives a little extra padding for sleeping in on cold nights. http://www.moonstone.com/d_ins.asp?id=084629 Nice. I can get one Patagonia for <$100, so the price is good for me. I like the only 12 oz of the Moonstone though. drC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepires Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I have one as well and have used it for planned light bivy and an unplanned bivy up high in the wind rivers. (COLD!) Really very nice piece. Just don't wear it thrashing up a chimney or it will get shredded as the mat'l is lightweight. Better yet, stay out of chimneys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 http://www.bozemanmountainworks.com/cocoon-pullover.php The Cocoon is pretty lightweight but is expensive. Jedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I had an old Puffball and walked into the patagonia store with it on. It exuded a large amount of horror and disbelief that I could trash a jacket so badly that they took it from me and gave me a new one...now called the micro puff. The micropuff, along with a dri-clime windshirt (whatever brand you choose for either) are almost essential articles of clothing in my climbing pack. I can get away with a micro puff and/or a dri-clime windshirt all summer long. As for winter use, both are essential for me too. The dri-clime creates a micro-climate as my layer over my silkweight poly-pro and acts as a windproof high-exertion layer on approaches. The micro-puff is my warm climbing layer since it fills out dead airspaces under a hard or soft shell top. It is a much much better layer than fleece or wool since it is much warmer for the weight and packs down better too. On hot ice days, it stays in my pack, unnoticably light. So basically the thing is the perfect weight to temp ratio. One could argue endlessly about the differences between types of insulation (polarguard delta in the patagonia...primaloft one in others...etc...). Moonstone also makes what is called a lucid jacket which is a super duper lightweight down jacket that is a good deal warmer and lighter than the synthetic micro puff. I almost pro-dealed one until i got the hook-up with patagonia. Now, i'm glad i did, b/c i think it would've gotten soaked. I would rather have the lucid for summertime since it won't get wet and is lighter and warmer. If you're buying to last, I'd go with the patagonia on all clothing items b/c you can return it easier than you can return shit at REI. the returnability is built into the price tag, which you may notice is much steeper, but worth it in the long run and you can buy it from anywhere and still return it. -Mike That's a great story, Mike. You are the one, the only Patagonia Poster boy. Maybe you could get a job in product testing - no one can thrash their gear better than you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_A Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 The Micro Puff looks good. I own a Cirrus as well (older version, with Primaloft, and love it. Use it almost every day, as well as on climbs), so I can vouch for its durability. Here's yet another option for you. I'm thinking of picking one up, myself. http://www.wildthingsgear.com/primaloft.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jopa Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I have the micro puff pullover (12.5 oz) and so far I have been very pleased (I assume the jacket is the same thing except it has a hood). It offers incredible warmth for the weight and it packs down small in its own stuff sack which you can clip to your harness if necessary. I agree that the outer material is delicate, but I don't climb many squeeze chimneys with it on, and given Patagonia's return policy I wouldn't be too concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I own a Cirrus as well (older version, with Primaloft, and love it. The older Cirruses actually are filled with Thermolite. At least the two I have are. I look forward to replacing the jacket with a Montbell Thermawrap in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 I have the micro puff pullover ...... and it packs down small in its own stuff sack which you can clip to your harness if necessary. I lost the stuff sack within' a couple days (sorry environment). I would like it to stuff inside it's own pockets (yeah i know, that's kina a gay feature) just so I can clip it to my harness when going sans pack on a mutipitch. Here's what it looks like w/o a stuff sack: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_A Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 I own a Cirrus as well (older version, with Primaloft, and love it. The older Cirruses actually are filled with Thermolite. At least the two I have are. I look forward to replacing the jacket with a Montbell Thermawrap in the near future. Yeah, a few years ago they did go to the Thermolite insulation. I have the older older version, circa 1998, with Primaloft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jopa Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 I have the micro puff pullover ...... and it packs down small in its own stuff sack which you can clip to your harness if necessary. I lost the stuff sack within' a couple days (sorry environment). I would like it to stuff inside it's own pockets (yeah i know, that's kina a gay feature) just so I can clip it to my harness when going sans pack on a mutipitch. Here's what it looks like w/o a stuff sack: That's an interesting way to rack your jacket! I would think that material would get thrashed quickly that way?? I would prefer that it would stuff into its own pocket as well because I just end up keeping the stuff sack in the breast pocket anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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