chucK Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 I think the problem is that in the large states, if there is a close vote (FLA anyone?), that a huge number of people (the losing half) are effectively disenfranchised. Quote
sexual_chocolate Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 That's why a representational form of government, as practiced in most(?) European countries, seems a bit more democratic.... Greens have seats, commies have seats, etc, thereby lending a voice to the many views that make up any country.... Quote
JoshK Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 Well said, Jim. Lars, it's easy to understand. Look at the 2000 election. 500,000 people had their votes dismissed by 127 (or whatever the hell it was) in Florida. Why should half a million people's vote get essentially nullified by a few poeple in one close state? One person...one vote...no matter what state. Popular vote is way more fair. If you want to defend the electoral college simply because it got your guy elected (well...that and some tampering) in 2000, than at least fess up and admit your bias. Quote
dylan_taylor Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 http://www.fairvote.org/factshts/irv.htm If only we were mature enough to use this... Quote
Lars Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 If you want to defend the electoral college simply because it got your guy elected (well...that and some tampering) in 2000, than at least fess up and admit your bias. it has nothing to do with defending getting anyones guy elected, it's a matter of the 12th amendment in that pesky US constitution that many seem to hold so dear, whether or not it gets their guy elected. it's not an issue of bias. nice try tho... Quote
JoshK Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 If you want to defend the electoral college simply because it got your guy elected (well...that and some tampering) in 2000, than at least fess up and admit your bias. it has nothing to do with defending getting anyones guy elected, it's a matter of the 12th amendment in that pesky US constitution that many seem to hold so dear, whether or not it gets their guy elected. it's not an issue of bias. nice try tho... Yes, cause the country is exactly like it was when the 12th amendment was added. Times change. The fact is we are a nation now, not a grouping of states. It should be up to the PEOPLE to elect our president not the STATES. Quote
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