marylou Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Besides the new MSR Cap Stove, anyone see anything of particular interest at the Summer OR show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC007 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 there is way to much to list, alot in the climb section, from shoes, tools, cams,,,,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Osprey has a cool new pack line called the Atmos. 50L pack that weight in at 2lb 12 oz for a medium. And it carries great. Also comes in a 35L and a 25L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 that weight in at 2lb 12 oz for a medium That's about what Osprey zippers used to weigh about 6 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graupel Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Osprey has Thermoformable hip belts as an option to some of their larger packs. I think that this could be a pretty big deal. Â Omega Pacific has a new cam that spans a much larger range of sizes and has the capacity to deal with flaring cracks better than conventional existing camming devices. This was mentioned in an earlier thread on cc.com (followed by much derisive spray by folks that had never seen it). Â More stuff in headlamps, like Petzl incorporating higher intensity LEDs. Others may have used these brighter LEDs also. Another company had like 24 LEDs spread across your forehead giving a much broader beam. Â A totally see through foldable kayak, which would be cool to see the sea creatures below. It isn't really an expedition model, but accommodates 300 lbs of person-plus-gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbb Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 any word on the modified quark w/ pinky rest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 Murraysovereign just suggested to me that we have a Salt Lake Pub Club next show. Â Sound like fun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 and the nalgene bottle in the shape of jessica simpson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graupel Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 any word on the modified quark w/ pinky rest? Â I saw it, but didn't pay close enough attention as to the availability date. Supposedly they will also offer the part separately so you can retrofit your existing axe, after doing a little bit of shaving on the fairing near the spike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 I liked the Osprey hipbelts as well. The new women's sleeping pad from Cascade Designs is sure to be a hit with men and women alike, and to boot, it's pink! Â Lots of stuff being made out of eVENT, more refinements to get weight down here and there. I didn't see a drinky bottle in the shape of Jessica Simpson but there was a nice Tiki Head one there. Â Schwagwise I got an autographed poster from Timmy O'Neill to add to the bathroom collection, a really cute Cloudveil T-shirt, and the new Mountaineers Books/AAC history of mountaineering book, which is really nice. My favorite thing that I got (don't laugh) is the orange Nalgene bottle from Katadyn. I know, silly. Â Rest of the goodies are more work-related. Â Wish I'd had time to look at climbing gear, but I hadda stay focused on what I was there to look at and didn't have any extra time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 what's the MSR cap stove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 It's a new stove for next year. Liquid fuel, no pump, no bottle, just put the fuel in the resivoir in the stove. It has a heat exchanger as well, and an integrated windscreen. Like the Jetboil canister stove, it has its own cookpot/cup dealo with the heat exchanger on the bottom. Â It's pretty cool but they have a ways to go on it, it's still in prototype. They're also talking $170 retail, which is a bit rich for my blood, personally. The thing that replaces the fuel pump is emerging technology, and apparently that is part of why it's so expensive. Â They also have some of the same thermal technology rolled into a new canister stove, but they were not demoing it. Â And did I mention the pink sleeping pads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 sounds like an expensive pop can alcohol stove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 sounds like an expensive pop can alcohol stove  which is necessary gear when attending at PDX Bum Club down by the river. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Serl Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 i thought the slickest thing at the show was Patagonia's new "Compound Seam System" glued-seam waterproof-breathable jacket collection (i hope i got the acronym right!), but then i'm way into clothing, not so much hardware. Â no sewing, no taping - very clean, very light, very flexible. many people have been working on this "dream" for a long time, so all credit to the guccis for being out there first. Â (on the other hand, when i questioned Mike Blenkarn and Tom Fayle, Arc'teryx's designers, why THEY weren't first, they offered the explanation that their testing of this construction showed that it's not very tough, and that with fabrics heavier than 15 or 20 denier, you'll likely experience seam failure. also, the requirements for accuracy are extreme, whereas sewing is pretty forgiving - therefore you're gonna get lots of rejects, so sewing remains cheaper. time will tell...) Â in a similar vein, Mountain Hardware is showing both down and synthetic bags with glued seams/baffles on the outer shell. probably a worthwhile advance for waterproof-breathable outers; maybe no real advantage otherwise? Â on the climbing gear side, i thought the whole collection of new Grivel crampons, axes, and screws was awesome. Â Camalots have been redesigned, and look like they'll be superb. Â there is more going on in headlamps than you can keep up with - next up, a Petzl that'll drive you home when you're drunk! Â cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 in a similar vein, Mountain Hardware is showing both down and synthetic bags with glued snaffles on the outer shell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 I saw Don Serl there, but since I don't know him, I didn't say hi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 It's a new stove for next year. Liquid fuel, no pump, no bottle, just put the fuel in the resivoir in the stove. It has a heat exchanger as well, and an integrated windscreen. Like the Jetboil canister stove, it has its own cookpot/cup dealo with the heat exchanger on the bottom. It's pretty cool but they have a ways to go on it, it's still in prototype. They're also talking $170 retail, which is a bit rich for my blood, personally. The thing that replaces the fuel pump is emerging technology, and apparently that is part of why it's so expensive.  MSR is hoping that memories of just how crappy Svea stoves are/were have faded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 It's a new stove for next year. Liquid fuel, no pump, no bottle, just put the fuel in the resivoir in the stove. It has a heat exchanger as well, and an integrated windscreen. Like the Jetboil canister stove, it has its own cookpot/cup dealo with the heat exchanger on the bottom. It's pretty cool but they have a ways to go on it, it's still in prototype. They're also talking $170 retail, which is a bit rich for my blood, personally. The thing that replaces the fuel pump is emerging technology, and apparently that is part of why it's so expensive.  MSR is hoping that memories of just how crappy Svea stoves are/were have faded? But Beck swears by them! They MUST be good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 No Silnet gorts yet! Sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 You mean silnylon? Too damn slick, I want EPIC gorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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