cracked Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 People do actually end up falling in crevasses on the C-D from time to time, don't they? That's why you should rope up on the Roman Wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashw_justin Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 People do actually end up falling in crevasses on the C-D from time to time, don't they? That's why you should rope up on the Roman Wall. Â I actually heard something along those lines from a couple of climbing rangers while hiking up the bare ridge above the saddle. Â But seriously, I'm pretty sure people actually manage to fall in crevasses on the way up to the saddle. Don't ask me how, I've never seen it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CascadeClimber Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 But seriously, I'm pretty sure people actually manage to fall in crevasses on the way up to the saddle. Don't ask me how, I've never seen it happen. Â Me neither, but I know the slope just below the col gets icy late season. People slip there and wing down the fall line into that gaper that you have to traverse around late season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Picky SOBs y'all are today. How's this:Â Â I see you have climbing and hiking as disjoint sets. Here's proof that the two activities can be equivalent: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CascadeClimber Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I see you have climbing and hiking as disjoint sets. Here's proof that the two activities can be equivalent: Â Uh, no. That pic (save for the lack of name-taped helmet) belongs in the lower, oval-shaped category. Â Â -L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeezix Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 rockclimbing:alpinism::playing catch:baseball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 rockclimbing:alpinism::playing catch:baseball  An alpine climb w/o difficult rock is merely a steep snow slog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeezix Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Oops, right, I meant  cragging:alpinism::playing catch:baseball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Oops, right, I meant cragging:alpinism::playing catch:baseball  What are you thinking? You need to get real. Alpinism is what we do when we are out of shape for hard cragging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Oops, right, I meant cragging:alpinism::playing catch:baseball  Actually, I think it goes like this: sport climbing:bouldering::game boy:T-ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashw_justin Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 so bouldering is bouldering. You don't say: let's go climbing; you say: let's go bouldering. Right? So, I think because it's so important to distinguish bouldering as it's own special way of life, that we shouldn't dare call it climbing. No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 so bouldering is bouldering. You don't say: let's go climbing; you say: let's go bouldering. Right? So, I think because it's so important to distinguish bouldering as it's own special way of life, that we shouldn't dare call it climbing. No? Â We say, "Let's go particpate in that genre of climbing in which it is highly probable that we shall encounter females." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 What are you thinking? You need to get real. Alpinism is what we do when we are out of shape for hard cragging. Â Thank you for that jewel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken4ord Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 A hike becomes a climb once I start using my hands on the rock or tools in the snow and ice. So 4th class scrambles are climbs, same with ice, single and multipitch rock routes, summit of mountains that require the use of my hands. If I can walk up something then that is what it is a walk up. If I have to pull myself up through a section to make it to the top of whatever it is then it is a climb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeezix Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Those days are behind me now, but I always thought bouldering was what you did at the end of the day when you were too stoned to belay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashw_justin Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Those days are behind me now, but I always thought bouldering was what you did at the end of the day when you were too stoned to belay. Â lol. Now it's more like, when you are too self-centered about your climbing badassness to belay. Haha, yeah, I know that wasn't fair. Somebody flame me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Those days are behind me now, but I always thought bouldering was what you did at the end of the day when you were too stoned to belay. Â Drinks? No man, I'm living one day at a time. That's all behind me now and...what, are you buyin'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 I admit that I have become powerless and my life is unmanagable. Now which addiction are we talking about here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted October 8, 2005 Author Share Posted October 8, 2005 Spraying:climbing::Resurrecting old threads:The Nodder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knelson Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Dru:spraying::The Nodder:??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Spraying:climbing::Resurrecting old threads:The Nodder  Let. It. Go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek_the_Greek Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 I'm sure that with just a little effort, this thread can be placed in the context of a bolting argument, and thereby given new life and meaning. Â What about bushwacking? It seems to be one of those self-abusive tendencies to which only 'climbers' subject themselves. The bushwack approach to a mellow ridge scramble can definitely be the most extreme and strenuous part of the day. And yet, it doesn't usually involve danger, roping up, or placing gear. Â [Note - irrelevant musings/random thread drift ahead] I think in the future, dirt will distinguish alpine climbing from all other pursuits (which will be indistinguishable from gym climbing). All previously climbed rock will have been scrubbed clean long ago and be either bolted or festooned with fixed gear (the effect being the same). Vast road networks will bring climbers to within 50 ft. of the climb/boulders/artificial wall, and one will merely have to exit one's vehicle and line up for a turn. Â The real adventurers will bushwack up horrendous valleys of second growth and exotic shrubbery (think himalayan blackberry) that have grown in where the glaciers used to be. These rabid misanthropes will scratch their way up dirty, flakey, disconnected ridges, seeking to avoid all other human contact. They will keep their ascents secret to maintain the spirit of adventure, and will never bushwack or climb the same route, so as to not accidentally clean it. Â Obviously, Dru, your poll needs a new category. It's only climbing when there's bushwacking involved, and at least a few moments of vicious hatred towards life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek_the_Greek Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Hmm. I guess that was way too much effort expended on this dumb thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skykilo Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 What about bushwacking? It seems to be one of those self-abusive tendencies to which only 'climbers' subject themselves. The bushwack approach to a mellow ridge scramble can definitely be the most extreme and strenuous part of the day. And yet, it doesn't usually involve danger, roping up, or placing gear. Â A couple responses to your ill-conceived paragraph. Â -Bushwhacking can involve serious danger. Ask Szy*etc / bwrts about untrustworthy bushes. Haven't you heard of the 'Vegetable Belay'? That can be some sketchy sheet. Ever done the Terror Creek approach? On how many half-rotten, mossy logs have you had the honor of slipping umpteen feet into the undergrowth, fearing for the joints in your legs the whole way? You'll be lucky to land minus only a testicle. Â -Bushwhacking isn't even proper until you have skis on your back. So I submit it's only properly done by skiers. I heard some 'climber' bitching about the Access Creek approach when he had only descended it. That doesn't even count. Infinitely go against the grain... Â Bushwhacking majorly helps us escape Tools, chalk trails, encounters with more civilized people, etc. Please don't ridicule it. It is the path to enlightenment. Â Just to connect my rant with the original thread, 'climbing' is a good excuse to whack some bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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