littleworker Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 hi folks I have been looking at bivi's for a long time. I have had my eye on the OR Adv and Bibler tripod. I will use it about once a month all 4 seasons rain or shine. So it needs to be 4 season and preferabley breathable. Id like it free standing because i sometimes camp in sand or on rock in the Sierra's. needs to light. On those 50 miles weekends. 4 pounds tent does not cut it. I camp all over the mid west and pacific coast. In the sand. Thanks for your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 No matter how many poles and hoops and weather proof zippers a bivy has, the major drawback is that you have to get into it, letting all sorts of nasty stuff in. As such, bivies suck when it's raining/snowing, etc, etc. They rule when you have a drippy snow cave or when it start snowing at midnight when you're already in the bag. A 'fully weatherproof' bivy is an oxymoron. Besideds, if you're willing to accept a 2.5 lb bivy, why not get a 3lb tent and take a lighter sleeping bag, or sacrifice a few GUs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Hefty SteelSack...not just those regular hefty bags, except nothing less than the best, the STEELSACK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendorama Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 The OR advanced is going to be more breathable than the Bibler, and I like the way their poles set up a little better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 blackdiamond beta light with a bibler epic bivy sack. Light, roomy, warm, dry. no claustrophobia. sleeps two. Too much? The the integral designs siltarp is a little smaller (one person) version of the beta light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 remember when you bivi in the rain, there is no place to put your pack to keep it dry, so bring extra garbage bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Won't your pack already be wet from getting to your bivy in the rain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 blackdiamond beta light Betalight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Won't your pack already be wet from getting to your bivy in the rain? usually the rain starts 5 minute after i get into my bivi sack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 You can use your pack for a bivy. Then *everything* can get wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderfour Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I managed to get through a nasty storm on Saturday night and I stayed reasonably dry. Condensation is awlays going to be a concern in a bivy. I use a Bibler bigwall. The Todd-Tex fabric does a nice job distributing the moisture build up from condensation on the top of the sack, but the bottom is yout tripical coated nylon which gets pretty wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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