OR Vs Bibler Vs other reccomendations

[littleworker]

hi folks

I have been looking at bivi's for a long time. I have had my eye on the OR Adv and Bibler tripod.

I will use it about once a month all 4 seasons rain or shine. So it needs to be 4 season and preferabley breathable. Id like it free standing because i sometimes camp in sand or on rock in the Sierra's. needs to light. On those 50 miles weekends. 4 pounds tent does not cut it.

I camp all over the mid west and pacific coast. In the sand.

Thanks for your time

[cracked]

No matter how many poles and hoops and weather proof zippers a bivy has, the major drawback is that you have to get into it, letting all sorts of nasty stuff in. As such, bivies suck when it's raining/snowing, etc, etc. They rule when you have a drippy snow cave or when it start snowing at midnight when you're already in the bag. A 'fully weatherproof' bivy is an oxymoron. Besideds, if you're willing to accept a 2.5 lb bivy, why not get a 3lb tent and take a lighter sleeping bag, or sacrifice a few GUs?

[JoshK]

Hefty SteelSack...not just those regular hefty bags, except nothing less than the best, the STEELSACK!

[hendorama]

The OR advanced is going to be more breathable than the Bibler, and I like the way their poles set up a little better too.

[layton]

blackdiamond beta light with a bibler epic bivy sack. Light, roomy, warm, dry. no claustrophobia. sleeps two. Too much? The the integral designs siltarp is a little smaller (one person) version of the beta light.

[Dru]

remember when you bivi in the rain, there is no place to put your pack to keep it dry, so bring extra garbage bags.

[cracked]

Won't your pack already be wet from getting to your bivy in the rain?

[cj001f]

blackdiamond beta light

Betalight

[Dru]

Won't your pack already be wet from getting to your bivy in the rain?

 

usually the rain starts 5 minute after i get into my bivi sack

[olyclimber]

You can use your pack for a bivy. Then *everything* can get wet.

[fenderfour]

I managed to get through a nasty storm on Saturday night and I stayed reasonably dry. Condensation is awlays going to be a concern in a bivy.

 

I use a Bibler bigwall. The Todd-Tex fabric does a nice job distributing the moisture build up from condensation on the top of the sack, but the bottom is yout tripical coated nylon which gets pretty wet.