chelle Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 Has anyone ever fought a parking ticket issued when climbing at Vantage? I got a notice on my windshield a couple months ago, and just got the ticket which is $71. This seems really excessive. They should put a self registration system at the parking lot so people won't have to waste time and gas driving around to buy a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 They will drop the fine if you buy the pass ($15). Its worth it- regardless of where the money for the pass goes, $15 is a small price to pay to avoid getting pissed off everytime you climb at vantage. Believe me, I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelle Posted April 22, 2002 Author Share Posted April 22, 2002 Since I don't plan to go to vantage anytime soon, is there a way to buy a pass? Other than in person... [ 04-22-2002, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: ehmmic ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 I think you can get a pass at Fred Meyer here in town. At least that was where I got mine. This is just that yellow wilderness permit thingie right? Am I wrong folks?? miker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 quote: Originally posted by ehmmic: Since I don't plan to go to vantage anytime soon, is there a way to buy a pass? Other than in person... any place you can get a fishing and hunting license.... big5 sports or someplace like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_detrick Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 When you buy a hunting or fishing lin. it comes with them, you can buy just a permit for ten dollars. I got a ticket last year, and went out and got a permit, I wrote the jugde a letter and told him I allways get one but had not yet, but got one after the ticket and he dismissed it. It's worth a try. You just have to write a letter, you do not have to appear in court. Hope it helps, to everone else BUY a permit, pay now or pay latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Schuldt Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Do they check for permit on weekdays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figger_Eight Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Does it come with the hunting permit for 'bilers on Mt. St. Helens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_detrick Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 I don't know if they check everyday or not, I climb sometimes after work and do not see them, but they know how packed it is on weekends so Im sure they make a point to check then. Wait til concerts start then it will really be packed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erden Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 If you buy a Fish and Wildlife Permit, be prepared to give your social security number, and more intrusive personal information for what amounts to a stamp to park at Vantage. A total overkill, and the person behind the counter at K-Mart sporting department will have everything they need for identity theft. Clearly a requirement for process change. Also, I am getting really fed up with the amenities that we get for the money that they collect for the passes, not to mention the outrageous tickets that they issue. There is not a self tending solar operated toilet facility, we have to get in that crap booth called the "Honey Bucket" and campers destroy the plants and make their own tracks each time they stay overnight. Campsites that are accessible, that are mildly improved and that are contained with clear demarcations would go a long way to maintain the havoc that our crowding causes. How does one spur the Fish & Wildlife to give us our money's worth besides paying the enforcement officer to come and write tickets? Erden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordop Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 (edited) . Edited June 15, 2021 by jordop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Jordop, I think you are right about the greater impact of our concert-going friends. But unless you want to see the place set up as a climbers' park, accessible only to those with climbing gear and a permit, paid for by a hefty fee and enforced by cops with guns, you're going to be sharing the campsite with a bunch of rock fans on nights when there is an event at the amphitheater. The "camping" at the venue sucks, and if I was going to a show there, I'd certainly elect to drive down the road to camp at the climbing area. I believe MCA sends out crews to pick up trash once in a while, and it would be nice if they'd pay for some facilities, too, but then we might have even more rock fans camping in "our" climbing area. Meanwhile, if you care about the mess, you'll contribute to keeping the place as clean as possible. I think the primary reason Fish and Wildlife do not "give" us much at Frenchmen's Coulee is that we are, as a user group, not very well organized. I've been to several F&W sites where there were very nice facilities, but they've been places used by fisherman and boaters. Those folks have a long history of recreational use that is supported by the government, and they have paid lobbyists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_detrick Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 If you got a few bucks buy the permit, all those concert goers have to have one. Or give it to the acess fund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 I bet if you simply removed your windshield wipers (they come off in seconds on most vehicles) the rangers would be stumped on how to ticket you. To further create confusion, chain starving rotwilers to each bumper on a 15' chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 Maybe as a group we need to get some lobbiest, before the government tells us what we are going to do, maybe we should tell them what we will do. Just a thaught. I have a doller or two to donate to a cause. I just don't want some asshole in washington DC telling me what I can and can't climb and how I aught to do that. THer are alot of climbers. we could make an impact if we could find a way to work together. Perhaps we could solve that other "issue" that I am loath to bring up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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