iain Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 Probably many of you have seen this news but: Article - Permanent Fee $85 trail park pass! $5000 fine and up to six months in jail for infraction! Ouch! Quote
catbirdseat Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 What would this man say? Fight! John "Bluto" Blutarsky: "Oh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto. We might get in trouble."Well, just kiss my ass from now on! Not me. I'm not gonna take this! Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer . . . Eric "Otter" Stratton: Dead. Bluto's right, psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now, we could fight 'em with conventional weapons, that could take years, and cost millions of lives. No, in this case, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture, be done on somebody's part. Quote
Gary_Yngve Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 iain said: Probably many of you have seen this news but: Article - Permanent Fee $85 trail park pass! $5000 fine and up to six months in jail for infraction! Ouch! That Ralph Regula guy needs to fuck off and quit meddling in the affairs of the PNW. Quote
Rodchester Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 He pointed to proposed legislation by Sen. Craig Thomas, R-Wyo., that would make fees for national parks permanent and would end the fee program on other public lands. I can stand that... Quote
olyclimber Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 "You have to look at your recreation pursuit to decide if it is worth it." Quote
lummox Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 Rodchester said: He pointed to proposed legislation by Sen. Craig Thomas, R-Wyo., that would make fees for national parks permanent and would end the fee program on other public lands. I can stand that... you are a [insert insult implying stupid with money]. Quote
Rodchester Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 (edited) lummox said: Rodchester said: He pointed to proposed legislation by Sen. Craig Thomas, R-Wyo., that would make fees for national parks permanent and would end the fee program on other public lands. I can stand that... you are a [insert insult implying stupid with money]. This is a different Senator offering a different bill that would effectively end the fee system (park pass) as we know it. I think it is a great idea to eliminate it. Lummox...if you want to keep paying the fees to use the National Forest lands, that's your opinion...but I disagree. I want to see the parking and volcano pass end. The National Park's system of fees is different and entrance fees have always existed. Not that I love them, but I'll put up with it. I'll take the non-fee use of the National Forests any day. Edited November 24, 2003 by Rodchester Quote
lummox Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 Rodchester said: lummox said: Rodchester said: He pointed to proposed legislation by Sen. Craig Thomas, R-Wyo., that would make fees for national parks permanent and would end the fee program on other public lands. I can stand that... you are a [insert insult implying stupid with money]. This is a different Senator offering a different bill that would effectively end the fee system (park pass) as we know it. I think it is a great idea to eliminate it. Lummox...if you want to keep paying the fees to use the National Forest lands, that's your opinion...but I disagree. I want to see the parking and volcano pass end. The National Park's system of fees is different and entrance fees have always existed. Not that I love them, but I'll put up with it. I'll take the non-fee use of the National Forests any day. oops. my bad. Quote
David_Parker Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 catbirdseat said: What would this man say? Fight! John "Bluto" Blutarsky: "Oh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto. We might get in trouble."Well, just kiss my ass from now on! Not me. I'm not gonna take this! Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer . . . Eric "Otter" Stratton: Dead. Bluto's right, psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now, we could fight 'em with conventional weapons, that could take years, and cost millions of lives. No, in this case, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture, be done on somebody's part. "Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?" "German's?" "Forget it, he's on a roll!" Quote
David_Parker Posted November 24, 2003 Posted November 24, 2003 Rodchester said: He pointed to proposed legislation by Sen. Craig Thomas, R-Wyo., that would make fees for national parks permanent and would end the fee program on other public lands. Best common sense compromise I've heard. This is what I've been promoting all along. Duh!!! National Parks are public land set aside for permanant protection from other activities such as mining, logging and other natural resource extraction. I don't mind paying for use of that "protected" land. I'll be damned if I'll subsidize the National Forest and soon to come I'm sure, BLM land. I can stand that... Quote
ashw_justin Posted November 30, 2003 Posted November 30, 2003 Don't we already pay taxes for this? Oh wait, all of our taxes go to killing people in other countries, instead of letting us explore our own. Woohoo. Quote
Roger Posted November 30, 2003 Posted November 30, 2003 Critics include Rep. Greg Walden, R-Ore. Earlier this year Walden supported an amendment that would kill the rec demo fee program, according to Walden's spokesman Dallas Boyd. "Greg doesn't approve of the idea of just charging someone to go walk in the woods and look at the trees," Boyd said. holy shit. I agree with Greg Walden. Quote
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