allthumbs Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/wheeler200310220911.asp Posted 10/23/2003 In a marvelous moment of candor, a federal Centers for Disease Control (CDC) committee has reported that it cannot find any evidence that gun-control laws reduce violent crime. American gun owners spent most of the 1990s telling the CDC that gun control is ineffective at best and harmful at worst. So it's gratifying that the lesson is finally sinking in. A task force convened by the CDC issued its report after two years of poring over 51 scientific studies of gun laws. The group considered only research papers that met strict criteria for scientific soundness. The CDC distances itself with a disclaimer, but it's pretty clear that it supports the task force's conclusions. The report contains no dissenting position or minority view from CDC managers. Stick that in your pipes and smoke it, motherfuckers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 There never has been meaningful gun control, so how can anyone tell wether it works or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted October 24, 2003 Author Share Posted October 24, 2003 ...what was that...a fucking argument? I thought not...shut up catturd and go back to your corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 The Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws or combinations of laws reviewed on violent outcomes. (Note that insufficient evidence to determine effectiveness should not be interpreted as evidence of ineffectiveness.) http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5214a2.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 GovExec: TSA reaffirms decision on German firearm supplier http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1003/102203cdam2.htm Posted 10/22/2003 The Transportation Security Administration has reaffirmed its decision to have German firearms manufacturer Heckler & Koch supply as many as 9,600 40-caliber handguns to U.S. commercial airline pilots who complete federal law enforcement training under the agency's guns-in-cockpits program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 that wheeler dude has serious reading comprehension issues (or is plain lying). so much for objective journalism ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 that's your rebuttal? weak as your sperm count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 it's actually a classic example of the deception that we see so much of these days. tell a lie and even if caught red-handed some of it will stick anyway. pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnibmilc Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 I like Chris Rock's idea: "Man, if you make bullets $5000 each, there would be no problems! "You go up to a dude you'd love to cap, and say: " Man! I'mm gonna KILL YOU! When I can afford it. I'm gonna get a second job, save real hard, and I'M GONNA KILL YOU!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnibmilc Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 maybe the CDC should do a study on the effectiveness of the death penalty in reducing violent crime next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 I knew you wanks would dis the truth. Business as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 if gun control doesn't reduce violent crime, doesn't that also mean that gun PROLIFERATION doesn't reduce violent crime, (crime level the same no matter how many guns available) so the claim that criminals are less likely to commit crime when anybody might be carrying, is so much BS trask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrambler Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 I blame the increase in violence to the increase in videotaping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 studies have shown (including interviewing prisoners) that bad guys are less likely to commit crimes against an individual in states that allow concealed carry. the bad guys just don't know who may or may not be packin. it's just the truth, whether you want to argue it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 trask said: studies have shown (including interviewing prisoners) that bad guys are less likely to commit crimes against an individual in states that allow concealed carry. the bad guys just don't know who may or may not be packin. it's just the truth, whether you want to argue it or not. That's not what the CDC report says! It says they were no less likely to commit crimes when more guns were carried....they probably carried guns themselves -its just the first shot wins theory! If you know your victim has guns you come in blazing and shoot him first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 scrambler said: I blame the increase in violence to the increase in videotaping. I blame the increase in violence here (just look at the shoutbox) on the repeated cut-and-paste of angry Dru's! And listening to Marilyn Manson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrambler Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 trask said: studies have shown (including interviewing prisoners) that bad guys are less likely to commit crimes against an individual in states that allow concealed carry. the bad guys just don't know who may or may not be packin. it's just the truth, whether you want to argue it or not. It's not the sane people that have firearms that bother me. It's the small percentage of borderline cases that have access that are worrisome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 MisterE said: scrambler said: I blame the increase in violence to the increase in videotaping. I blame the increase in violence here (just look at the shoutbox) on the repeated cut-and-paste of angry Dru's! And listening to Marilyn Manson... i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin i don't cut and paste nothin except LLayton's head onto LLamas or whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 Well enuf of this shit anyway...I just posted it to piss off that tool j_b. It worked. I'm goin steppin.. latah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_J Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 Gun control in my way of thinking is being able to place your shots where they count. If you don't like my guns MOVE or fuck off. Trask, I finished my recurve today. Its nice...55pound pull bow witha 28 inch draw. Looks beautiful...so now not only do I have to have GUN CONTROL but also BOW control. hahahaha...would be nice to see those ass holes that broke into my car with a bow and stick one with an arrow. RIGHT IN THE ASS. That would make a good hospital and police report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 Why is it that we call consumer protection laws and automobile licensing laws "regulation", but we call any laws as applied to gun, "control"? We don't use that word in any other instance I can think of. Gun Control is a phrase coined by the NRA because it sounds bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_J Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 catbirdseat said: Why is it that we call consumer protection laws and automobile licensing laws "regulation", but we call any laws as applied to gun, "control"? We don't use that word in any other instance I can think of. Gun Control is a phrase coined by the NRA because it sounds bad. FUCK YOU CAT TURD. EAT SHIT AND DIE CAT TURD. FUCK OFF AND DIE CAT TRUD. KISS MY HAIRY FINN ASS CAT TURD. IN OTHER WORDS CAT TURD I DISLIKE EVERYTHING YOU MIGHT STAND FOR OR DO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 sisu_suomi said: catbirdseat said: Why is it that we call consumer protection laws and automobile licensing laws "regulation", but we call any laws as applied to gun, "control"? We don't use that word in any other instance I can think of. Gun Control is a phrase coined by the NRA because it sounds bad. FUCK YOU CAT TURD. EAT SHIT AND DIE CAT TURD. FUCK OFF AND DIE CAT TRUD. KISS MY HAIRY FINN ASS CAT TURD. IN OTHER WORDS CAT TURD I DISLIKE EVERYTHING YOU MIGHT STAND FOR OR DO. So you admit he has a good point and you can't defend yourself with logic and cunning? Lame. Just more hot air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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