catbirdseat Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 b-52 is lighter and doesn't get a sharp edge on it, AND handles small ropes, so you don't need to buy a reversino. Therefore, it is better. I've heard it said that it doesn't autoblock very well on small diameter ropes compared to the Reversino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 b52 is so suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 b-52 is lighter and doesn't get a sharp edge on it, AND handles small ropes, so you don't need to buy a reversino. Therefore, it is better. I've heard it said that it doesn't autoblock very well on small diameter ropes compared to the Reversino. works like a charm on my 8mm ropes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocNoggin Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I have never used a B-52 but I love my Reverso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek_the_Greek Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I like my Reverso too, but I can see its disadvantages. Mainly, it kinda does suck for small diameters. Like if you're cragging, and have to hold someone up who's dogging a route, you have to use a good amount of heft just to hold them in place on anything less than a 10.2 mm (or so) rope. And for free-hanging raps on skinny lines (<10 mm) it offers very little friction (a backup is pretty much mandatory). It locks up like a champ when using the autoblock feature, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I have never used either belay device, but I think this is the appropriate thread to mention that I really enjoy belaying. I've actually never used a belay device; I just sort of rub the rope back and forth around my hips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 reverso sux for belaying someone on a hard lead and they are frantically hefting out rope to clip. it can lock off annoyingly. not as smooth as an atc, for example. They also wear out relatively quickly. I still like it for some stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff have you considered cutting a slot in your steel head and using it as a brakebar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 that would not be a catbirdshit approved lock off. belay with a brakebar rack on all leads. it's the only safe solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 that would not be a catbirdshit approved lock off. belay with a brakebar rack on all leads. it's the only safe solution. You are hearby granted a special variance. Start cutting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kioti Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 A thought on the B-52 that hasn't been mentioned: It sucks for large diameter. It feeds terribly. I'd take the Reverso or ATC anyday over the B-52 for thick ropes (over 10mm) I use the reversino for skinny ropes, and in turn haven't used the b-52 for skinny threads. I should just get rid of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Crash Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 The Reverso does indeed have a tendency to lock if you're not promptly paying out rope to your leader. And according to Petzl's manual, autolocking is compromised if my 8.4 mm double is icy, yet 8.4 mm is too large for the Reversino. WTF?! Do we need a Reversinette for 8.3-8.4 mm ropes? Who's tried the Mammut Matrix? It's like a B-52 but needs only one biner on the anchor side regardless of whether you bring in one or two seconds, like the Reverso. drC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I have a Matrix which I used with a pair of 8 mm ropes. Wasn't terribly impressed, as I found it a bit grabby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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