The disease of Liberalism

[lummox]

diseased

 

The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man.

Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?

[gohawks]

<sarcasm>Yeah, and Bush is an asshole because he stopped sending money to Europe to fund abortions.

[Dru]

oh well

[Ratboy]

gohawks said:How else did the highest taxed state in the country with the largest GDP have a deficit?

 

Bush's buddies at Enron manipulatiing the electricity market had just a bit to do with it.

[gohawks]

Ratboy said:

gohawks said:How else did the highest taxed state in the country with the largest GDP have a deficit?

 

Bush's buddies at Enron manipulatiing the electricity market had just a bit to do with it.

 

If someone cons you into paying $1000 for horsespock (i.e., fake horsecock), who do you blame? The con artist, yourself for being stupid enough to fall for it?...Well California was stupid enough to believe the utility companies when they said they should be deregulated. Do you see any other states that had this problem?

[E-rock]

gohawks said:

 

That ain' t got nothin' to with what I was talking about. Yeah, the environment is getting trashed and it sucks. But that has nothing to do with bull shit social services. It's called taking responsibility for yourself and being self-sufficient. If you don't understand that, then you sure as hell ain't a real climber.

 

Maybe one day California will get that, and stop blowing money away on welfare for illegal aliens. How else did the highest taxed state in the country with the largest GDP have a deficit?

 

What a bunch of fucking bullshit. Self-sufficiency is great, but we're really far from the days of building our own cabins, canning our own preserves, splittin' our own wood and shootin' our own deer. All you fucking "real-man" chest beaters are no more self-sufficient than the "average" welfare recipient (whatever that is). If you think welfare is what's bankrupting California (and our federal government) you haven't looked much at where our taxes are really going. Illegal aliens are not coming here to recieve welfare. They're coming here to make an underpayed living (and the people who hire them are the real scum-bags who know they can get away with underpaying them). Much of what Mexican immigrants make (both legal and illegal) gets sent to their families. Mexican laborers are harder-working, more loyal, and more "self-sufficient" than the Americans who shun the jobs Mexicans are taking.

[Dr_Flash_Amazing]

E- !

[lummox]

E-rock said:

Much of what Mexican immigrants make (both legal and illegal) gets sent to their families.

actually the folks are gettin bank accounts here. then they send an atm card to their relatives who can make withdrawls. no extra fees that way. comprende?

[gohawks]

E-rock said:

gohawks said:

 

That ain' t got nothin' to with what I was talking about. Yeah, the environment is getting trashed and it sucks. But that has nothing to do with bull shit social services. It's called taking responsibility for yourself and being self-sufficient. If you don't understand that, then you sure as hell ain't a real climber.

 

Maybe one day California will get that, and stop blowing money away on welfare for illegal aliens. How else did the highest taxed state in the country with the largest GDP have a deficit?

 

What a bunch of fucking bullshit. Self-sufficiency is great, but we're really far from the days of building our own cabins, canning our own preserves, splittin' our own wood and shootin' our own deer. All you fucking "real-man" chest beaters are no more self-sufficient than the "average" welfare recipient (whatever that is). If you think welfare is what's bankrupting California (and our federal government) you haven't looked much at where our taxes are really going. Illegal aliens are not coming here to recieve welfare. They're coming here to make an underpayed living (and the people who hire them are the real scum-bags who know they can get away with underpaying them). Much of what Mexican immigrants make (both legal and illegal) gets sent to their families. Mexican laborers are harder-working, more loyal, and more "self-sufficient" than the Americans who shun the jobs Mexicans are taking.

 

First of all, the Mexicans wouldn't be coming here if they thought they were getting underpaid. They risk the lives of their entire families to bring them here. You yourself said they make enough to send money back home to Mexico. Back there, they'd make pennies on the dollars that they make here.

 

Second of all, why are you calling legitimate businessmen scum bags? Ever hear of minimum wage? These workers get paid a fair wage. What are you suggesting? That these businesses split all the profits with the workers? Who bears the risk, and had the creativity to form the business? You sound like a communist to me.

[E-rock]

First of all, illegal aliens are often paid LESS than minimum wage, that's why the "legitimate business people" hire them. Secondly minimum wage is not a living wage if you want to live an American lifestyle, which illegal immigrants are not. They're living a poor lifestyle, perhaps sub-par to what they had at home, but making a little extra over what they would down south. Many of the illegals are homeless, migrant pickers, who collect the produce you so "self-sufficiently" consume.

 

Secondly, if you think that a comfortable living wage is too much to ask from your employer if it cuts into their profits, than I suppose I'd rather be considered a communist than whatever the hell you are, because that's just plain inhumane.

[gohawks]

E-rock said:

First of all, illegal aliens are often paid LESS than minimum wage, that's why the "legitimate business people" hire them. Secondly minimum wage is not a living wage if you want to live an American lifestyle, which illegal immigrants are not. They're living a poor lifestyle, perhaps sub-par to what they had at home, but making a little extra over what they would down south. Many of the illegals are homeless, migrant pickers, who collect the produce you so "self-sufficiently" consume.

 

Secondly, if you think that a comfortable living wage is too much to ask from your employer if it cuts into their profits, than I suppose I'd rather be considered a communist than whatever the hell you are, because that's just plain inhumane.

 

Your logic makes no sense. People make the best choice available to them. They would not be coming here if they weren't better off than they are in Mexico. You are disgusted that they don't live the American lifestyle you live, and you think you are better than them. It's not my job to give them that lifestyle. Let them work for it on their own. My parents immigrated to this country dirt poor, and they busted their ass to be successful and raise a family. They never took handouts from others. And they sure as hell never complained about being controlled by other people looking out for their own self-interests.

 

I bet you never had to work hard for anything.

[Dr_Flash_Amazing]

 

Up the Hammer and Sickle! Smash the corporate bourgeoisie! Equality for all!

[E-rock]

gohawks said:

E-rock said:

First of all, illegal aliens are often paid LESS than minimum wage, that's why the "legitimate business people" hire them. Secondly minimum wage is not a living wage if you want to live an American lifestyle, which illegal immigrants are not. They're living a poor lifestyle, perhaps sub-par to what they had at home, but making a little extra over what they would down south. Many of the illegals are homeless, migrant pickers, who collect the produce you so "self-sufficiently" consume.

 

Secondly, if you think that a comfortable living wage is too much to ask from your employer if it cuts into their profits, than I suppose I'd rather be considered a communist than whatever the hell you are, because that's just plain inhumane.

 

Your logic makes no sense. People make the best choice available to them. They would not be coming here if they weren't better off than they are in Mexico. You are disgusted that they don't live the American lifestyle you live, and you think you are better than them. It's not my job to give them that lifestyle. Let them work for it on their own. My parents immigrated to this country dirt poor, and they busted their ass to be successful and raise a family. They never took handouts from others. And they sure as hell never complained about being controlled by other people looking out for their own self-interests.

 

I bet you never had to work hard for anything.

 

Your logic makes no sense. I don't see why you have a problem with illegal immigrants in California based on the direction our argument has gone.

 

You don't know fucking shit about me. I've worked my ass off since I was 14 for everything I have. You're obviously a stupid asshole who believes you can make unfounded personal attacks on the work ethics of others purely because they don't have the same morals as you.

 

"You probably can't even climb 5.10, pussy"... <- That's what you sound like.

[gohawks]

Dr_Flash_Amazing said:

Up the Hammer and Sickle! Smash the corporate bourgeoisie! Equality for all!

 

Paraphrase of DFA: I'm a lazy worthless piece of shit. I don't care if other people work harder than I do to raise their families. They all owe me a cut!

 

You should be in the mob DFA. Or better yet, start a union.

[gohawks]

E-rock said:

gohawks said:

E-rock said:

First of all, illegal aliens are often paid LESS than minimum wage, that's why the "legitimate business people" hire them. Secondly minimum wage is not a living wage if you want to live an American lifestyle, which illegal immigrants are not. They're living a poor lifestyle, perhaps sub-par to what they had at home, but making a little extra over what they would down south. Many of the illegals are homeless, migrant pickers, who collect the produce you so "self-sufficiently" consume.

 

Secondly, if you think that a comfortable living wage is too much to ask from your employer if it cuts into their profits, than I suppose I'd rather be considered a communist than whatever the hell you are, because that's just plain inhumane.

 

Your logic makes no sense. People make the best choice available to them. They would not be coming here if they weren't better off than they are in Mexico. You are disgusted that they don't live the American lifestyle you live, and you think you are better than them. It's not my job to give them that lifestyle. Let them work for it on their own. My parents immigrated to this country dirt poor, and they busted their ass to be successful and raise a family. They never took handouts from others. And they sure as hell never complained about being controlled by other people looking out for their own self-interests.

 

I bet you never had to work hard for anything.

 

Your logic makes no sense. I don't see why you have a problem with illegal immigrants in California based on the direction our argument has gone.

 

You don't know fucking shit about me. I've worked my ass off since I was 14 for everything I have. You're obviously a stupid asshole who believes you can make unfounded personal attacks on the work ethics of others purely because they don't have the same morals as you.

 

"You probably can't even climb 5.10, pussy"... <- That's what you sound like.

 

I never said I have any problem with immigrants. Just as long as they work hard for themselves and abide the law.

 

You're right. I don't know you. But every person I've met with a socialist agenda never worked hard to earn their money.

[Dru]

i was smart enough to get a job where i can make good money even when "working smarter not harder". obviously you guys are too or would you be spraying from your web-enabled shovel as you dig a trench in the mud?

 

 

anybody who talks about working hard while spraying on cc.com is not walking the talk.

[gohawks]

what's wrong with working smart?

[Dr_Flash_Amazing]

gohawks said:

Dr_Flash_Amazing said:

Up the Hammer and Sickle! Smash the corporate bourgeoisie! Equality for all!

 

Paraphrase of DFA: I'm a lazy worthless piece of shit. I don't care if other people work harder than I do to raise their families. They all owe me a cut!

 

You should be in the mob DFA. Or better yet, start a union.

 

Fuck are you on about, mate? Beauty of socialism is that everyone works hard, and everyone gets a cut.

 

And what does organized crime have to do with everyone getting their fair share? Organized crime has more in common with your glorious capitalist system wherein the wealthy elite bully and intimidate others into doing their bidding.

 

As for your apparent disdain for the labor union, you must be keen on a seven day, 80-plus hour work week in an unsafe, unhealthy environment, while you watch the meager pittance you're earning get funneled right back to the company to pay for your food (which you're forced to buy at the company store) and housing (i.e. your squalid single room with no plumbing or heat in a company-owned slum). Guess you DO believe in hard work.

 

Have fun licking those corporate boots, hooker. DFA's off to tend the garden and help Ivan and Alexander make some bread for tonight's dinner!

[erik]

[iain]

Dr_Flash_Amazing said:

DFA's off to tend the garden and help Ivan and Alexander make some bread for tonight's dinner!

Don't forget to get in a few well-earned sessions of tetris and get the missus to bake some sputnik-shaped sugar cookies

[gohawks]

DFA - You can live in your own disillusioned world, and think of me in that way. You have no clue how I work, who I work for, or how much money I make.

[Dr_Flash_Amazing]

gohawks said:

DFA - You can live in your own disillusioned world, and think of me in that way. You have no clue how I work, who I work for, or how much money I make.

 

DFA's not disillusioned. Did you mean to say "delusional"? Better double-check your corporate dictionary to be sure (that is if your masters let you access learning materials).

 

In any case, Dr. Flash Amazing does, indeed, not know anything about your work habits or earnings, nor does he give the proverbial squirt of piss thereabout. The Doctor does recognize your Ayn Rand-intoxicated, me-first, market-fellating social views, however, and he pisses voluminously thereupon. But in the end, DFA really cares most about landing a large, thoroughly barbed hook in the corner of your propaganda-spewing talk-hole, which has sadly proven all too easy to accomplish.

 

Want some forceps to pull that thing out, fish?

[gohawks]

Dr_Flash_Amazing said:

gohawks said:

DFA - You can live in your own disillusioned world, and think of me in that way. You have no clue how I work, who I work for, or how much money I make.

 

DFA's not disillusioned. Did you mean to say "delusional"? Better double-check your corporate dictionary to be sure (that is if your masters let you access learning materials).

 

In any case, Dr. Flash Amazing does, indeed, not know anything about your work habits or earnings, nor does he give the proverbial squirt of piss thereabout. The Doctor does recognize your Ayn Rand-intoxicated, me-first, market-fellating social views, however, and he pisses voluminously thereupon. But in the end, DFA really cares most about landing a large, thoroughly barbed hook in the corner of your propaganda-spewing talk-hole, which has sadly proven all too easy to accomplish.

 

Want some forceps to pull that thing out, fish?

 

hahahahahaha, get a cock and balls.

[Dr_Flash_Amazing]

gohawks said:

 

 

hahahahahaha, get a cock and balls.

 

Hilarious. You're like MtnGoat with bad words and a grasp of the meaning of "concise".

 

Get a clit and ovaries.

[gohawks]

DFA - We should definitely climb together. Who wants to lead?