epb Posted February 7, 2002 Posted February 7, 2002 I know its a bit away, but I was thinking about passing through Zion in June. I know the close something like 80% of the routes from Jan - August due to peregrine protection. Does anyone know where to get info on what walls are closed??? I was paricular intrested in knowing if the routes in Temple of Sinawava and the routes on Angel's Landing would be closed. Quote
crazyjizzy Posted February 7, 2002 Posted February 7, 2002 I would do a seacrch for Zion N.P., and then contact them. I have found that they are actually helpfull, and do not yet have too bad of an opinion of climbers. Quote
allison Posted February 7, 2002 Posted February 7, 2002 Keep in mind that all of the Interior Dept. websites (including NPS) are shut down indefinitely due to a completely unrelated snafu in the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Quote
willstrickland Posted February 7, 2002 Posted February 7, 2002 Call the backcountry desk at 801-772-3256 sometime after mid April. 80% closure is bullshit, not even close to that. Back before they actually had people monitoring the nesting pairs, they'd close huge sections to be safe. Have fun, take offset cams and HB offset brassies. Quote
specialed Posted February 7, 2002 Posted February 7, 2002 I'd skip Zion in June unless you like horrendous debilitating heat. The average high temp in June for Zion is between 90-100. I've been there in early June when it was 105. We left out boom box in the car to go climbing and it melted. You can chase the shade, but every wall gets a fair amount of sun. But I don't remember any peregrine closures. Quote
daisy Posted February 7, 2002 Posted February 7, 2002 where can i find those HB offset brassieres, I am one of the girls that is slightly larger on one side than the other and they sound like just the thing. Quote
willstrickland Posted February 7, 2002 Posted February 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by daisy: where can i find those HB offset brassieres, I am one of the girls that is slightly larger on one side than the other and they sound like just the thing. Go to the department store. Walk past the "Junior", "Petite", and "Misses" sections to the "Avatar" section...you'll find them there Quote
MATT_B Posted February 7, 2002 Posted February 7, 2002 I was there in early june about 2 years ago. It was hot, mostly in the 90 but not too bad. We made sure to get a very early start every day. By noon it was getting hot. I also seem to remmber some of the walls got a good amount of shade in the late afternoon. If you are passing through the area I would deffinetly stop by, you may get lucky with reasonable temps. As for bird closures call the backcountry desk. There were some closures when I was there but not many, mostly in less traveled areas. I would also recomend checking out some of the slot canyons. Quote
specialed Posted February 7, 2002 Posted February 7, 2002 If its too hot to do any walls do some canyoneering, like spelunking its the retarded bastard stepchild of climbing. Quote
epb Posted February 7, 2002 Author Posted February 7, 2002 Thanks. I guess I'll just give em a call. I'm passing through so no harm in stopping regardless. Quote
willstrickland Posted February 7, 2002 Posted February 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by specialed: like spelunking its the retarded bastard stepchild of climbing. You think climbing stoned is fun? Try caving on acid or shrooms (no self-respecting caver calls it "spelunking"). In the TAG region (where TN, GA, AL meet) there are tons of caves and when the weather turns cold and wet,making climbing miserable, caving is awesome. It's always 55-60 degrees, doesn't matter if it's day or night, etc. Quote
specialed Posted February 7, 2002 Posted February 7, 2002 Dude I'm scared enough of offwidths and squeeze chimneys. I don't know how I'd do in a real cave. I've also already had my lifetime quota of being in the close vicinity of bird and rat shit from rockclimbing that I don't feel I need to subject myself to voluntarily cruising around places where these little nasty nocturnal creatures live Plus I don't want to buy all that Euro-stlye Petzl caving shit. BUT, like having sex with fat chicks, you shouldn't knock it till you try it. So maybe I'll try it.... caving that is. Quote
Dru Posted February 8, 2002 Posted February 8, 2002 careful will, chucK gets upset when people diss daisy... Quote
texplorer Posted February 8, 2002 Posted February 8, 2002 You mean my pink lycra tights won't work well down in the caves? Quote
rbw1966 Posted February 8, 2002 Posted February 8, 2002 I've done quite a bit of canyoneering in Zion. If you need some beta let me know and I can steer you in the right direction. Like the original poster, I went down with the intention of doing some climbing but it was just too damn hot. If you decide to do some canyoneering you will want to consider bringing along a wetsuit. Rob Quote
specialed Posted February 8, 2002 Posted February 8, 2002 I've heard its cold as balls down in those canyons regardless of how hot it is outside. Quote
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