tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/iraq_poll030321.html Quote
Greg_W Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 Gee, Americans like it!! Now all you liberals don't clamor at once to somehow discredit this poll with your normal bullshit. I don't think the system could handle it. Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 Come on, Tomcat ... for someone who claims to be stepping to the plate with plenty of mental muscle, you should know better than to trust a statistic. Quote
tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Author Posted March 21, 2003 Dr_Flash_Amazing said: Come on, Tomcat ... for someone who claims to be stepping to the plate with plenty of mental muscle, you should know better than to trust a statistic. Yeah, I should just adapt to your way of thinking shouldn't I? Quote
iain Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 Greg_W said: Now all you liberals I really wish you'd stop saying that. Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 DFA's way of thinking is that survey-dependent statistics can vary wildly depending on way too many factors. Did they take the survey at the Pentagon? In the midwest? How many people did it involve? Come on, man, this doesn't have to do with party-line shit, it's just basic logic. Quote
tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Author Posted March 21, 2003 Your logic is flawed .. severely. If you want to debate, go bring me one of my arguments and we can debate. I'm not sure where you're going with your surveys bud, but real logic (which goes beyond what you learned in your statistics class) transcends your utopian world and transports you into reality. Get back with me when you have this down. Quote
chucK Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 Dr_Flash_Amazing said: DFA's way of thinking is that survey-dependent statistics can vary wildly depending on way too many factors. Did they take the survey at the Pentagon? In the midwest? How many people did it involve? DFA, From the article that Tomcat linked: "This ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone March 20, 2003, among a random national sample of 506 adults. The results have a 4.5-point error margin. Fieldwork by TNS Intersearch of Horsham, PA." Quote
Necronomicon Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 Americans are sheep. The wolves have told the sheep what to think. So why ask a sheep what they think when you should be talking to the wolves? Quote
tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Author Posted March 21, 2003 chucK said: Dr_Flash_Amazing said: DFA's way of thinking is that survey-dependent statistics can vary wildly depending on way too many factors. Did they take the survey at the Pentagon? In the midwest? How many people did it involve? DFA, From the article that Tomcat linked: "This ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone March 20, 2003, among a random national sample of 506 adults. The results have a 4.5-point error margin. Fieldwork by TNS Intersearch of Horsham, PA." Yeah you're right guys .. the 50+ Iraqis I saw tearing up a life size poster of Saddam Hussein with a boxcutter yesterday must have been faked -- propaganda, faulty journalism. It's funny how many Iraqi soldiers and citizens aren't protesting the war, yet our own citizens are. Enjoy your freedoms .. you paid a lot for them. Quote
allthumbs Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 Necroturd, speak for yourself bitch. I'm alpha all the way. Quote
Necronomicon Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 tomcat said: chucK said: Dr_Flash_Amazing said: DFA's way of thinking is that survey-dependent statistics can vary wildly depending on way too many factors. Did they take the survey at the Pentagon? In the midwest? How many people did it involve? DFA, From the article that Tomcat linked: "This ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone March 20, 2003, among a random national sample of 506 adults. The results have a 4.5-point error margin. Fieldwork by TNS Intersearch of Horsham, PA." Yeah you're right guys .. the 50+ Iraqis I saw tearing up a life size poster of Saddam Hussein with a boxcutter yesterday must have been faked -- propaganda, faulty journalism. It's funny how many Iraqi soldiers and citizens aren't protesting the war, yet our own citizens are. Enjoy your freedoms .. you paid a lot for them. I love being free! Thanks tomcat, I owe it all to death and destruction! You're my buddy. By the way, tomcat, what has been the reaction to this war in the rest of the Arab world? By the way, tomcat, what is the american media machine not telling you? Oh, I guess you don't know... Quote
tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Author Posted March 21, 2003 Necronomicon said: tomcat said: chucK said: Dr_Flash_Amazing said: DFA's way of thinking is that survey-dependent statistics can vary wildly depending on way too many factors. Did they take the survey at the Pentagon? In the midwest? How many people did it involve? DFA, From the article that Tomcat linked: "This ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone March 20, 2003, among a random national sample of 506 adults. The results have a 4.5-point error margin. Fieldwork by TNS Intersearch of Horsham, PA." Yeah you're right guys .. the 50+ Iraqis I saw tearing up a life size poster of Saddam Hussein with a boxcutter yesterday must have been faked -- propaganda, faulty journalism. It's funny how many Iraqi soldiers and citizens aren't protesting the war, yet our own citizens are. Enjoy your freedoms .. you paid a lot for them. I love being free! Thanks tomcat, I owe it all to death and destruction! You're my buddy. By the way, tomcat, what has been the reaction to this war in the rest of the Arab world? By the way, tomcat, what is the american media machine not telling you? Oh, I guess you don't know... The machine .. lol. You're killing me. Quote
chucK Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 Tomcat, I'm curious why you quoted my post? Did you think I was supporting DFA or condemning the poll? I was answering DFA's questions. I think a scientic poll (like was done here) of 500+ randomly sampled people is a pretty valid poll. I have no reason to believe these results are innaccurate. C'mon Tomcat! Debunk me!!! Quote
iain Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 tomcat said: It's funny how many Iraqi soldiers and citizens aren't protesting the war hmm yes, men coming at me with large guns and bombs bent on destruction of my leader, who I most likely presume dead at this point anyways, and who has at times put to death my fellow Iraqis. Now how would I get out of this little predicament? Talk trash? Quote
tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Author Posted March 21, 2003 chucK said: Tomcat, I'm curious why you quoted my post? Did you think I was supporting DFA or condemning the poll? I was answering DFA's questions. I think a scientic poll (like was done here) of 500+ randomly sampled people is a pretty valid poll. I have no reason to believe these results are innaccurate. C'mon Tomcat! Debunk me!!! No I agree with your analysis of the poll with few participants, but I think the majority opinion is similar. I am sorry to have made an example of your post. Quote
tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Author Posted March 21, 2003 iain said: tomcat said: It's funny how many Iraqi soldiers and citizens aren't protesting the war hmm yes, men coming at me with large guns and bombs bent on destruction of my leader, who I most likely presume dead at this point anyways, and who has at times put to death my fellow Iraqis. Now how would I get out of this little predicament? Talk trash? Do you know this from personal experience Iain, or are you just talking out of your ass? Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 tomcat said: Your logic is flawed .. severely. If you want to debate, go bring me one of my arguments and we can debate. I'm not sure where you're going with your surveys bud, but real logic (which goes beyond what you learned in your statistics class) transcends your utopian world and transports you into reality. Get back with me when you have this down. Go talk down to somebody else, pal. You bring up this logical argument bullshit, but as soon as someone trys to logically argue, you bring the condescension. Take your two-bit cut-and-paste pseudo-intelligence elsewhere, pricko. Quote
tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Author Posted March 21, 2003 Dr_Flash_Amazing said: tomcat said: Your logic is flawed .. severely. If you want to debate, go bring me one of my arguments and we can debate. I'm not sure where you're going with your surveys bud, but real logic (which goes beyond what you learned in your statistics class) transcends your utopian world and transports you into reality. Get back with me when you have this down. Go talk down to somebody else, pal. You bring up this logical argument bullshit, but as soon as someone trys to logically argue, you bring the condescension. Take your two-bit cut-and-paste pseudo-intelligence elsewhere, pricko. HAHA pricko .. can I use that one sometime? You still haven't presented a logical argument yet. You're pretty good with rhetoric, I gotta admit, but I have yet to see an intelligent comment out of you. Keep trying chief. Quote
Greg_W Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 iain said: Greg_W said: Now all you liberals I really wish you'd stop saying that. What do you want me to call you guys who think opposite of me? You guys don't like being pigeonholed as 'Democrats', so I picked a more general term. Oh, do you guys favor 'progressives' now? That's a totally false moniker, since the Left has no interest in being progressive about personal liberty and freedom, only usurpation of power and denial of rights and self-determination. Quote
AlpineK Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 Tom if you are in a heated argument it isn't up to you to decide who has the best logic or information. That's why there are judges in courts. Quote
chucK Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 tomcat said: Your logic is flawed .. severely. If you want to debate, go bring me one of my arguments and we can debate. I'm not sure where you're going with your surveys bud, but real logic (which goes beyond what you learned in your statistics class) transcends your utopian world and transports you into reality. Ummm....you're the one who brought up the survey. Quote
iain Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 greg maybe you shouldn't try to pigeonhole people at all. Quote
chucK Posted March 21, 2003 Posted March 21, 2003 Greg_W said: What do you want me to call you guys who think opposite of me? How about, people of the thinking persuasion, or non-idiots, or perhaps even smartasses? Quote
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