G-spotter Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 May 13 2018. Road is currently washed out at about 4 km, (passable by quad but not by regular 4x4 truck) so add on about 2 km of hiking to get to the trailhead. Snow begins at the memorial. Looks like lower part of North Couloir is melted out. Pocket Glacier seems small this year. Big seracs below the east Face and Nav Wall. Large cornice on the summit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) Nesakwatch Spires/Rexford looking much drier if anyone's looking for some alpine rock. Edited May 15, 2018 by G-spotter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonG Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Thanks @G-spotter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarred_Jackman Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Anybody have current info on Slesse and the glacier in the corner pocket? I imagine it doesn't usually slide this early but with all the early warmth maybe I'll get lucky. I've never been up there so don't have any first hand knowledge to go on. Anybody, anybody??? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 Roads fixed up. Pocket glacier still there as of last weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 So...if one were to climb the NE Butt when the Pocket Glacier is still there, what do you have to do wrt the PG? Do you have to climb on top of the PG snow, just skedaddle below it, climb slowly and arduously below it, a combination of the above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonG Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 45 minutes ago, chucK said: Do you have to climb on top of the PG snow, just skedaddle below it, climb slowly and arduously below it, a combination of the above? It really depends on how much is still there and how actively it is shedding blocks. And how bold you are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 How bold I am decides whether I go for it or not. Just wondered what is the nature of the exposure. Racing across slabs dodging sliding blocks, or slow roped climbing waiting to be flossed off by sliding blocks, or climbing on top of something that might become a sliding block? Which of these daring feats might be required? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonG Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 It can change pretty quickly so that's why most wait until it slides, since one person's experience one day doesn't often mean anything for someone else the next. I know of many that have hiked up to turn around. It is pretty sketchy until most of it goes. Which is why August weekends are so busy on it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenwesh Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, chucK said: How bold I am decides whether I go for it or not. Just wondered what is the nature of the exposure. Racing across slabs dodging sliding blocks, or slow roped climbing waiting to be flossed off by sliding blocks, or climbing on top of something that might become a sliding block? Which of these daring feats might be required? It could be all of the above. I was up there 3 weeks ago, falsely assuming that the pocket glaciers above the propeller cairn would be fine. They were not. Rexford/Nesakwatch zone was a fantastic alternate to being crushed to death. NE Butt is a good route, but certainly not good enough to warrant running below that stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonG Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, keenwesh said: NE Butt is a good route, but certainly not good enough to warrant running below that stuff. So, so true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Any Pocket Glacier news after this weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 Still there yesterday more or less unchanged 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbirman Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Any updates on the glacier? We're thinking of going up to Slesse this coming weekend. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken4ord Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 So we went up last weekend and the glacier was still hanging in there. When we crossed it, it seemed to be quite stable, but like other have said it could change quite rapidly. Luckily when we went up the day before to check it out it was sort of overcast. The next day when we crossed it we got on it and across before the sun hit it, that meant a 2:00am wake up, 2:30am start from the parking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenwesh Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 The idea that the glacier is somehow stable at night is ludicrous. Do what you're going to do, take risks, but recognize that if you cross on top of or under that thing, any time of day, you are sticking your neck way way way out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 the devil does not doze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 7/26/2018 at 10:27 PM, keenwesh said: The idea that the glacier is somehow stable at night is ludicrous. Icefall frequency correlates well with temperature, especially for ice resting on rock. While it can happen at any time, it's most likely to occur at either the hottest part of the afternoon, or just as things radiation freeze overnight. Planning to cross when the risk is, not zero, but lowest, is a sensible precaution. Even if that reduction only corresponds to a 10% or 15% less chance of death... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonG Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, G-spotter said: Even if that reduction only corresponds to a 10% or 15% less chance of death... That's what I was wondering....how much less the risk in cooler weather. Probably really hard to estimate without recording a bunch of video and tallying ice chunks by time of day/temp. over several years. And I imagine it would be location specific since the angle of slope, rock type, etc. would factor in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenwesh Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) Me and two of my buddies were almost taken out by a falling single car garage sized mushroom on the french route of Begguya that went at the coldest part of the night, dropped 100 ft right of us. 10 minutes later another released, fortunately it was small and broke up before washing over us. We bailed. When the sun hit nothing else came off, and there was so much hangfire up there. The biggest serac release I've ever seen went off a few hours after sun left the face. Swept 3/4 of a mile with a 10 foot high wall on the leading edge. We crossed it 24 hours later, and belayed completely in the firing line for over an hour. Sure, maybe it's less likely to go in the middle of the night, but why? Slesse is such a mellow climb once the glacier goes, dance with death when it's unavoidable. Seracs cannot be reliably predicted, no matter what you and your undeveloped prefrontal cortex might think. Edited July 30, 2018 by keenwesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 Once bitten, twice shy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonG Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Slesse's pocket glacier is way less dangerous than this though: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialforest Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Wassup G-spotter? Any good new out of your nest?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brionifitch Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Any updates on the glacier conditions at Suh-LEE-see (just found out how to say it )? Planning on climbing this next Monday.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 14 hours ago, brionifitch said: Any updates on the glacier conditions at Suh-LEE-see (just found out how to say it )? Planning on climbing this next Monday.... no. SLEH-see. or slYosi. the South Coast Alpine Climbing FB group has up to the minute beta. latest news is there's a 10 m ice chunk right above the start of the ramp and a couple other snow-to-rock and rock-to-slab transitions that are pretty gritty and slippery but it's getting done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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