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This is exactly what I was trying to get across to Dru. But then again, he already knows all of this stuff. He's the quintessential climber.

It is my understanding that it does not. The F&W permit is a tool for collecting fees for the WSDF&W, not for providing services to the users of the lands adminstered by the WSDF&W. Further, it is my understanding that the porta-potties were arranged for and set-up by (and maybe even paid for) the members of the Frecnhman Coulee Climbers Coalition (FCCC), a yahoo group that I think may be (now) defunct, or at least not very active.

I would guess pretty much just that, as I piece together the OP and the info from the MRNP SAR Hotline. Guy decides to take a stroll in the woods. Underdressed and unprepared for the conditions. Gets wet. Gets cold. Gets lost. Gets dead. Gets found. End of story.

That's "OM:pagetop:G" to you, kevin...

TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT, PEEPS!!!1 C U THERE

Extension of the above thought: After you've threaded the rope through the anchor and started the pull, have your partner coil the rope for the toss as you're pulling it down from the upper anchor. On multi-rap descents, this multi-tasking can end up saving a lot of time over the course of the descent. coiling and tossing = knotting the gravity feed is faster and better Right. Every time. Absolutely. I'll agree that the "gravity assist" works best when the topography allows it. A lot depends upon the incline and/or nature of the vegetation of any particular climb. But then again, you already knew that... I can't remember the last time I pitched a rope down a climb and ended up with a clusterfuck serious enough that I couldn't rap it. But then again, I must be doing it wrong...

and it works best if you're on bolted rap stations and/or newly slung stout trees. I don't attempt it with slung chockstones or horns. IMHO, too much strain on the webbing/rock contact area, especially if there's an edge involved. Too much risk to both climbers for the reward...

Simul-rap? Seriously, tho... As the first rapper nears the next anchor below, begin anchor disassembly of the upper anchor. Obviously, this is only advisable under certain circumstances, such as: 1) heaviest partner rapped first, and 2) redundant anchor points (if used) were not weighted during the rappel. Clearly, this technique would not apply to bolted rap stations. However, in the case of bolted rap stations, one could safely simul-rap if the bolts are in good condition/solid. I've done this many times to beat a thunderstorm moving up the valley.

Extension of the above thought: After you've threaded the rope through the anchor and started the pull, have your partner coil the rope for the toss as you're pulling it down from the upper anchor. On multi-rap descents, this multi-tasking can end up saving a lot of time over the course of the descent.

Change the tape out every season, as it won't last much beyond a year of so before it sticks itself beyond all comprehension to the bottle/pole/whatever. Then, if you can get it to come off, it shreds and turns into little pieces of sticky string. Trust me on this one...

Similar to the garbage bag technique, stuff a space blanket into your helmet between the shell and suspension system. It's there when you're forced to bivy, and it doesn't get all beat up living in your pack for years waiting to be used.

You forgot the "Make your partner unwittingly" part No Dru, he's got it right. And so do you, partially... The "Make your partner unwittingly" part goes in front of "carry the ice and mixers for your alcohol into the mountains."

heavy metal likin' climber

I will. As a cunt, now I never have to leave the house!

Dude...go see your ob-gyn Naaaahhh, just slap some Vagisil on it and he'll be good to go!

Sorry, can't stand the biotch. Celine, I mean. Joan Jett

Are you fuhq'n kiddin' me?? Female vocalists that I enjoy listening to: Margo Timmins (Cowboy Junkies) Sequentia (early music) Anonymous 4 (early music) Cambridge Singers (the altos and sopranos) Kathleen Battle (opera) Cecelia Bartolli (opera) Michelle Shocked Jann Arden Sarah McLachlan Loreena McKennitt Shawn Colvin Enya, and sister Ma'ire Brennan (Clannad) The Rankin Family Shania Twain (and I don't even like country music, but hey, it's Shania...) Laurie Anderson (performance artist extraordinnaire) and who could forget Pat Benetar? Jeebus! I could go on ana on and on and on...

At this point, I don't think the name of the trail really matters, but it was the Kautz Creek TH. The subject, Mr. Ossman, was found deceased about two hours ago. Details can be found by calling the Park at 360-569-2211 and selecting "9". Sad day.

I can't do the beer/dinner thang, as much as I'd love to. I'll be working right up until about 5:30 or so tomorrow evening, then picking up a unit member's (minor) kid in the Tri-Cities and taking him up to the show, because my bud's stuck in 'Bama this week. If I was flying solo, things would be different. I'll be hangin' with Carlos for a bit after the show, then draggin' the minor back to his house, so I'm out for apres' show as well.

IT'S TOMORROW NIGHT, PEEPULZ!!!1 Tickets can be reserved by calling The Seasons box office at 509.453.1888 and requesting that your tix be picked up at the Will Call window. Cash or checks for $10; no credit/debit cards, please. CWMR has no way to run/swipe them, and neither does The Seasons (for whatever reason).

Dane, Don't let these young whippersnappers fool ya. "Out of shape" my ass, kevin!

Not me, Dane. I'll be working all day, then driving from the Tri-Cities, and picking up a friend's kid along the way to the show, since my bud's stuck in Alabama for the week. Remember, if you're in the Tieton, the raptor closure is currently in effect. See my posts in the Access Issues and Central/Eastern Washington forums.

Ah! Well, welcome to the climbing "scene" GMC. Hope to see you at the show on Thursday.

I liked it better when it was HyperSpud Sports. Everytime I went into Mtn. Mojo seemed like the employees were high as a kite and couldn't answer my questions. I'm a crackimaniac, temporarily displaced to the Wet side. I'm going back to visit my stuff (and friends/family). You live in Yakivegas? I used to, for about ten years, until about 2 years ago. Strange that we never met, as I spent a lot of time in MSY and later Hyperspud after John bought Chad and Todd's leftover MSY inventory. John is a real class act.

Yes, I will be there. Carlos is a friend of mine from years back. I haven't seen him in ages.