Squid

Agreed. Read it back to back with "Throne of the Mountain Gods" for an alternate perspective on the same incident.

Back to Gowans' origninal question, I think that's a very common opinion in certain regions of the country. I think it's almost a given in the intermountain west (MT-ID-WY-UT etc), but in the more densely populated coastal regions, people always gave me the hairy eyeball if I ever mentioned that point of view. I think it tracks pretty closely to the red/blue conservative/liberal split you see in voting patterns.

Yeah, I just skimmed for the pictures. If you flip through the pages real fast, there's a little movie of Arno climbing in it. He takes a HUGE whipper.

I drive a POS. badly.

Ok, I know it's early, but this one is worth planning for. We'll need to stock up on boxing gloves and crashpads. We need a venue with good coverage of the election, yet with a big enough floorspace to accomodate the fisticuffs. Hopefully it will have a yard out back to bury the bodies. Any suggestions?

about a 12-hour drive. YMMV

...if you think muk-luks and toques are the apogee of sartorial splendor

pimp

Cool- I'm not really stoked about climbing as a threesome, but it's better than admitting I'm too lame to solo that shit. I'm heading out to Idaho tonight- will be lurking around the Sawtooths and Tetons all week. PM me if you or anyone you know wants to climb. Hey mods, can I get a shagadelic vest icon?

I'm heading out solo, gonna linger at Redfish Lake til I find some mouthbreathing windowlicker who looks like they'll be able to maintain consciousness for 15 minute intervals, rope 'em up and call 'em ballast, I mean, call 'em my belayer. And yeah, don't think I didn't drool over your chest-beating, vest-parading, Pandora-hauling photos from earlier this summer. If I have half as much fun, it'll be a good trip.

V2 & V3 at best.

I thought this was the U.S. Foreign Policy Think Tank. Imagine my embarassment

What, you climb?

Cool, but when I was climbing at Vantage I saw some guys who'd only backed up their figure-8's with DOUBLE-FISHERMAN knots, instead of TRIPLE-FISHERMAN knots. I interceded, and showed them how unsafe they were being, and they called me an asshole. Who do I call to get their Northwest Forest Passes revoked?

..and when I went into 'lowest common denominator' to pick up the standard hold-chipper, they all stood around with these 'wtf'stares...morons! I wouldn't buy a glass of water from those attitudinal stooges..

If you don't enjoy the fruits of Christianity and capitalism, go move to Saudi Arabia, you Muslim communist anti-American Micheal Moore fondler!!

Steal Marylou's plates and put them on your truck while parked at trailheads

to IG. She earns big karma points, and had fun in the process.

Ah, Grasshopper has grown much.

You have a gift with words.

OMG! Did I make you late for the walk?

taco-time?

Nice job, Mounties!