erik

making it for dinner tonite and am interested in trying something new! all replies welcome! i'll give the winner a biner!

I climbed that route [...] It looks fairly stiff for 5.8 either way. It's 5.8+! Good one fer sure. That and Gorilla My Dreams, good Grand Wall training. shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh quit tellin people about all the other good routes up there!!!! EVERYONE THE ONLY GOOD ROUTES ARE AT THE LOWER WALL. PLEASE CONTINUE TO ENJOY THESE ROUTES AND DISREGARD THE FALSE INFORMATION LISTED ABOVE. THE REST OF INDEX SUCKS AND IS CHOSS. THO THERE ARE A FEW "OKAY" ROUTES ON THE UPPER WALL.

BOB IF YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTED. CONTACT PAUL OR LARRY AT THE NORTH CASCADES MTN GUIDES IN MAZAMA. FROM WHAT I GATHER THEY HAVE BEEN PRETTY ACTIVE AS OF LATE. THAT OR PM BOBBYPERU, HE WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT, BEING THE WA PASS GURU.

GARY THAT IS THE 5.7 PITCH AFTER THAT SHORT CHIM. THE START OF THE W FACE WOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OR AROUND THE CORNER TO THE PICTURED CLIMBERS RIGHT.

YOU GOTTA JUMP IN THE CATCH THE ORCA!

YOU FAGS SHOULA TOOK SPECIAL'S SAWS OUT AND FOUGHT! I BETCHA WE COULD HAVE GOT SOME GOOD MONEY TOGETHER!

NO HEFFERWIZEN!!!!!

mister-e i wont be roping up with you...as i can see our personalities do not seem to click. nothing personal...... and anyways wartleys has already been ticked! and anyways, i dont remeber claiming to be a good climber, ever. so..........................................................

and personally i dont ever really see a tr as cheastbeating. we all have different writing styles and different ideas of what is hard or challenging. so the read needs to discern this. and not neccisarrily through lambasting the person. jokes and off color remarks sometimes add to it. i cannot think of a single climbing outting where my friends and i have not acted like jackasses or the like, sometimes that is hard to convey.

ahhhh yes the fabled skykomish crags..... i met some guy at backpackers a few weeks ago spraying all about route descriptions and on and on about how good it was. when i asked where he got all silent. i have to ask what is the point of putting up new routes and spraying or talking about them if one chooses not to share? i was talking to some boater friends and they let me know of some crags out that diro, but i would have get my gazetter and see the details.

WERD! IT USED TO BE KEWL! DID YOU GO UP CAVE AS WELL?? OR JUST DOWN CAVE WITH THE REST OF THE TOURONS?? MAN THERE ARE SOME MUCH BETTER CAVES TO BE HAD IN THE AREA. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED PM ME.

HE IS AN ADULT NOW WITH A REAL JOB AND HAS MOVED TO A AREA WITH LITTLE CLIMBING..THO HE DOES LURK!

its not too much to ask. but you need to address it to the indivual mod for each forum. sometimes a pm to sprayer curbs it, other times incites it. what does one do when their requests are ignored? ban them? because all that does is bring the guns to bear on the mod, whom apprently needs to maintain non-spray, be everyone's friend and deciede what is best or wrong? you can't win, without heavy moding....and where does one draw the line? one off mark joke? a side note in which a route rekindles?

and also i think you stating that you refuse to post your tr's for fear of spray is a tad bit ludicris as i have seen you play in the mud too. if people dont want to share their trs for fear of spray then i can only see that as them only feeding the problem. you want more climbing post about it. who's responsibility is it to post about climbing? EVERYONES!

CRACKED SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA. BUT I THINK WHERE YOU LIST THAT SOME PEOPLE LIVE FOR PUB CLUB ANDN OT CLIMBING IS ABSURD. MANY OF THE PUB CLUBBERS ARE GOOD CLIMBERS. SO HOW DO YOU PROPOSE THAT THIS IS HANDLED. PEOPLE LIKE SPHINX, LUMMOX DRUL, AND A HOT OF OTHERS CRY WHEN SPRAY IS REDUCED OR EDITED OR DELTED. OFFER SOLUTIONS THAT YOU FEEL WOULD HELP. AND ANYWAYS THIS BELONGS IN THE WEBISTE RECMO'S FORUM!

MATT I HAVE NEVER FOUND A BRIGHTER HEADLAMP THEN THE ORIGNAL PETZL ZOOMS WITH A HALOGEN BULB.

How about me using some of those tools in your avatar picture on your hide, Taco-Boy and my tacos are the fucking bomb!! my spicy chicken taco would blow your lightweight wantcum county ass away!

or just use the bd lock down leash which imo is the best.

iain i think that is alpinfox's artistic rendition of the overall tone of the party, everything is/was blurry!

So Surf-Dog Erik: what's the name of this "best" surfing beach Chouinard "closed down"??? it is called the ranch, and it borders his property.

another mistere topic!

chuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for you my friend!

p.s. there are also some pics from the foray poasted up by alpinfox.

a whole host of friends made their way to wa pass to drink and drink and drink and drink and drink........and we climbed some too!! fri night. am not allowed to discuss the events due to pending investigations. but it was quite intoxicating! sat. alpinek, fern and i ascended the nw face of lib bell. in a stylie no herb 4 hour push. route is entertaining with some ho hum pitches and a few nice ones! the upper dihedral pitch is the ONE! sat night. please see above mentioned reference to fri night. tho it seemed a tad more mellow with only one major injury and six minor ones. sun. the crew rolled out in fine mountie seige tactics on the kanja temple. enjoying the loose rock, the varied climbing and the odd but luring kaja temple to its fullest. i personally took the day to do some self reflection and some chainsaw action fueled by resin hits and smoke from the forest fire which was/ is threating my friend grizzley's cabin. you might attempt to milk some eveidence or beta out of one of the few to show......or you might not!