erik

quote: Originally posted by 8ball: They're just average blokes like the rest of us, out to have a good time in the hills. you might be an average bloke, but i am not.... enjoy your show....i'll be out crankin it on the big stone.

or you coulsd use a combination of the 1st 3 that drul outlines.

quote: Originally posted by pope: Long live choice.[/QB] LONG LIVE CHOICE!! and self reliance

one thing to say about ingalls...is that you can walk off the fawker quite easily......takes all of about 15 minutes......a little scramblin is required....last time i did that fun little peak on the walk off i removed about 5 lbs of sling material and some of it was tied off to some real alpine shit... i think the bolts on the s face do create an issue as lazy people with little sense of adventure feel the need to rap, cuz it is so obvious laid out for them..... i think nelson needs to put that correction in his update, that rapping that route is not the choice way to do things.....walk the off....... kinda brings a point to me, that me friend wants to bivi on a super classic route for the bivi experience in the p.l. but after some thinking, i believe doing that creates hassles and even detracts from others experiences....granted we have every right in the world to bivi, but i think taking in consideration others is important too....all while preserving the integruity of the route and the stone...... so like the bolts on ingalls sure you can rap the route, but it detracts from it for others.....granted those beat ass met. rap anchors have violated the rock....so it is a double negative to use them..... and th hear about how it invites people with less skill into the mtns and gives them the experience is bullshit.....get the skillz to apy the billz and then come out to the alpine play ground.... craggin is an excellent place to practice alpine skillz, it once was just that...now it is a complete sport of its own and i think that alot of skillz are not learned cause they are deemed less important to the crag experience, but any climber whom has tasted the alpine, always wants more.......yet since we did not practice important skillz at the crags, they are unprepared for the alpine....this is where bolts come into play.....much easier to come up to a stance and start clippin shit, as opposed to searching for placements and then making it work so you may have a safe and effiencet stance.... enjoy erik

jay, that place works...but as far as decent food it is broke.... what y'all think about the clover leaf tavern on 6th ave....i have wanted pizza for months and this place has some decent pizza...plus dey gots lotsa room.... lotsa other options too!

quote: Originally posted by chucK:

maat, i agree with you completly.... probably came off sounding a little abrasive....though my point(probably lost in my rambling) is that to venture into the mtns without the proper skillz is a mistake....sure we all have made that mistake, as the learning curve sometimes tends to be steep...... but it is OUR OWN RESPONSIBILTY to make sure that we are as safe as possible and i believe this is acheived through personal enrichment. at the same time it is the responsibilty for everyone to protect the resources that we all love and enjoy.....bolting does neither of these two things...... and matt you are right again about stating that if these installations were removed that proper notifaction should be made to user groups expecting these bolts to be there.......

quote: Originally posted by Heinrich: Just wondering about the approach to Colchuck. Has anyone been up there recently and know how close you can drive to the trailhead. Thanks. you will not be able to drive to the trail head until the road has no snow on it and it is dry..... there is slope stability issues with that road.... you have to hike in from the icicle.....

quote: Originally posted by EV: Thanks for the help, Eric. I checked the search engine, no luck. I should have counted on such a response from a chickenshit web site like this one. sniffle sniffle....... apprrently the gaper has a better handle on it....... on betray!!! flail when ready!!!

quote: Originally posted by cj001f: quote:Originally posted by fern: your tax dollars maybe, not mine 'cause I am 1) Canadian, 2) poor. nevertheless I stand corrected. We will assimilate you yet in our quest for Tim Horton's donuts and never ending mountain ranges! tim horton and his non cream cheese fawkers can go jump off the chief.....

quote: Originally posted by specialed: The leaches woke Roxy up and she woke you up to pry the leaches out of her bunghole. I slept while you killed the deadly green slime leech. you never looked in your scholer pants before you put them on did you?????

quote: Originally posted by thelawgoddess: i believe there was only one vehicle in the lot when we pulled in ... I WAS JUST KIDDING........ THE LEECHES WOKE ME UP!!!!

quote: Originally posted by thelawgoddess: we were the second group up diedre "bright and early" on saturday. didn't lose any biners on the way down, but lost a reverso with a biner on the approach. anybody find that? it was borrowed gear, so'd be great if i could return it ... btw, despite the slippery slopes diedre was a ton of fun!!! ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT SOMEONE WOKE ME UP IN APRON PARKING LOT EARLY AM.....AND I WANNA KNOW WHO......

ev it is called the search feature on the webiste...i say go with that first.....

you cannot complain unless, you said something to them.....did you voice your concerns or opinions?? speak your mind, cause no one can read it....

quote: Originally posted by fern: Dru, Yanik and I topped out from Sparrow just ahead of Katja (the German girl). We met some guys who didn't look very canadian on Broadway ... perhaps that was you? Do you have a name written on a piece of tape on your helmet? I want to know who was the guy in the yellow helmet _below_ Katja who took a huge slab-slapping whipper on the waves pitch ... wha' happened buddy? I PLACED KATJA'S PIECE ON DEIRDE SUNDAY AFTERNOON....SHE WASNT TOO PHYSCED ABOUT THE WETNESS......

quote: Originally posted by westernbackcountryskier: no one has a picture of the routes on a webpage, or a digital picture they could send me of the area, so I can get a feel for what it looks like. I think you guys should stop whining with eachother about who has more testosterone and just fucking climb. Cut the B.S. it doesn't matter. i have pics and i have them scanned....too bad you are in bham......i dont give no free beta....specially to peeps who want to use very little of their sense of adventure.... just go there and climb what looks good, thats what we did and then r.b. came up with the beta......

oops i missed his email..... shot out...

i would like to see an agenda...... trail projects that need to be addressed at the crag...... restore original lower town trail.... improve the trail to private idaho rebuild the trail to rattle tale wall....

WHO IS THIS scott stanton guy???? and what improvments is he trying to do????? i want to hear more about it and why....not trying to be difficult, just wanting to know more...... scott can email me.......

out of all the bars i have been in seattle the elysion is the worst..... i cannot afford to go there.. $4.50 for pints and $9.00 for burgers seems like a waste of money......specially since i am going on a trip next week....... i think the late night effort to chnage the location is weak......... i am not a yuppie but a blue collar worker.. back to the drawing board....... i still think the alki or owl and thistle....anyone ever try to drive up to capital hill..... if this goes through i am spliting the group and taking the cool people with me to a better bar.......... and i am not whining just telling it how it is........

quote: Originally posted by Dan Larson: Pussies least us pussies are out crankin hard on the mother stone......gettin it done...... and i dont remember the van inncident must happend between the beer and passing out......

SLOPPY GLAD YOU HAD A GREAT TRIP!!!!! SQUISH ROCKS YOUR DOME