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90% of internet posters think they are cool. Fact

the secretary has 2

Probably a "canyoneering" class. Even worse.

You have not enough tentacles to be my boss.

copy cat bitch

No, but they were built in a different era of the NPS. The Ostrander was the first in what was envisioned to be a series of ski huts streching across the Yosemite backcountry.

Pissed you didn't get to wear the dress?

Just improving the team focus Roger. I'm a blackbelt in this stuff, and we're going to kick ass. Now lets hit the ground running so we don't lose traction and really focus on customer oriented solutions.

I have that problem without browsing cc.com. "action item" "critical path" "roadmap" bwahaahaaa

aaarrr, I love it when you dominate, aaarrrr

you need a beige lexus with gold trim to complete the ensemble luqayo

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I guess I need an enema poll next...

I almost bought KennyG's kayak on craigslist

Is this queer eye for the pseudo-climber?

you got laid on the way to work and you are complaining? You in the closet with PP?

you always struck me as a stiletto closet queen PP

Last I checked cc.com has an Idaho and Montana forum. More proof of just how groovy competition can be! truly an invisible hand in this case

The 2 ski huts I frequent, the Ostrander Hut in Yosemite NP and the Pear Lake Hut in Sequoia NP are both run by volunteer organisations. They, like the Sierra Club huts, are finding that the $20/night fee charged is no longer enough to cover maintenance, repair, scheduling and the caretaker necessary to make sure the building is in decent shape, and that they cannot raise enough capital through donations to subsidize the huts. The only large network of huts in the US (10th mountain) is $28 a night. That's more than what you people want to spend, and there's only so long you can run something at a loss. While people here seem to be opposed, the "European" model of hut providing sleeping and profitable food & booze is probably more sustainable. At least it's looking that way in the Columbia's of Canada. And showers are a heck of alot more civilized You may find this story of the friends hut interesting: http://www.wildsnow.com/articles/lous_backcountry/9-2/friends-hut.html

damn straight. watch your fucking back man, you are going to get shived

I think it reflects bore basic economic principles - they aren't profitable (at least Sierra Club, Yosemite and Sequoia huts aren't). They aren't profitable because they aren't full - there aren't enough users spending enough nights in the backcountry anymore. All of the hut systems I'm familiar with Chile, Argentina, New Zealand, Europe have groups of users who spend much more time in the backcountry 3-7 day excursions vs. a weekend. I'd like to see them, I just don't see anygroup in the PNW willing to step up. The Mounties and Mazamas are exiting the lodging business; any NPS structure would be concessioned out.

shit like this has been going on for months.

We're much more likely to end up with something like T del Paine. A big hut with showers serving meals to fat yuppies surrounded by a bunch of squalid, overpriced, tent sites - but those tent sites are 100x nicer than the even shittier, more squalid, rodent invested hell hole down the way. Hut's have their place, but the upkeep requires either dedicated volunteers or a substantial base of fee paying users. From my experience the US backcountry community outside of maybe Colorado (10th mountain) doesn't have those requirements. The Sierra Club huts are not profitable. European huts run ~€35 for club members ~€45 for nonmembers, too rich for the blood of us wankers, and they'd bitch about the communal meals. NZ huts are state subsidized.

I've got allergies to "Dobson" "jesus" and "focus on the family"

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