AlpineK

It's nice to come down to your mental level just to see what it's like.

Fuck off. Smoking pot rules!

ex-fucking-actly. Mr Natural has the post of the month!

Here's the deal. You can be young and smart, but that just means you have potential and maybe some great ideas. However as you get older you get practical experience by making a lot of stupid mistakes. Practical experience will get you through a lot. So us old guys may not have brilliant new ideas, but in most situations we can make better decisions.

Yeah, but we do it 1 to 2 times a week. We're in it for the distance!

You better check to see if they sell Mountain Dew down there. Zima and Tequiza too. Don't get your pretty boy one piece suit dirty.

pristine

Have I missed something in the news. Don't get me wrong I hate Rick.

Hauling Snowmobile Fairy Meadows Lotus Flower Tower Off the deck Low on the route CrazyJZ up high 1st overhang

I do find some of Dwayner's diatribes about sport climbing to be predictable and boring; however, unlike Sphinx, I thought Dwayner's post was funny.

If your always right then answer this classic riddle If a faggot jumps on your back do you beat him off?

's never flip over while rappelling

That's a pretty common climbing story from the old days.

why lurk here then? sounds like you need to get laid. that was the meanest thing i have read all day! Indeed

Yow! Drink up then tell us about your trip. Those of us not in AK will be at the Ballroom.

Also I wish we had a canoe to paddle out the Nehannie(Sp?) when we were done

Are you cutting down 20 trees to park your boat behind your megahome in the suburbs? Lambone has other problems besides being from the land where, "Men are men and sheep are scared." ....he's not even a member of the KTK even though he came up with the name.

Also I ain't driving a truck and chipper out to Index. This would all be dice and scatter with the brush.

Yeah I've done it, what's it too ya?

I just got back from a long day out in Woodenville killing trees at a mega-home so the dude who lives there can build a driveway to the backside of his house to park his boat. Talk about bullshit. What I'm talking about at Index is clearing the wall. There will be plenty of shade, and plenty of trees left. In some cases you can cut entire stems out of a tree while leaving the tree in place. In a couple cases the entire tree needs to go, but there will still be a lot of trees left. Other areas where I've thought of pruning/removing trees are Rattletale wall, and at the lower lump. The Lower Lump first inspired me with this idea. I remember climbing Beatle Bailey to Racer X about 10 to 15 years ago; last year we went to the Lower Lump and found the routes totally covered in moss and a large big leaf maple growing into Beatle Bailey. In this case you could prune back the tree without killing it. Anyway, I'm not talking about a major logging job. After all I would be doing this for free, and I loose motivation quick when I'm not being paid. The way I read this is Lambone and Sphinx are against this, and Michelle likes the aid the tree provides. Lambone is from Montana and thus clueless about the way things grow in Western Washington. Sphinx, I have a couple questions for you. What's the house you live in made out of, and when you shit do you use toilet paper, or do you stick your thumb up your ass?

This is the kind of comment I'm more interested in than tree hugging crap.

Japanese Gardens was originally named that because the route went up a moss and lychen covered crack. In fact the whole lower wall has been scraped clean. Climbers have already killed a ton of plant life at Index and destroyed a lot of wildlife habitat. Someone cut back trees about 10 years ago from around the lower wall and now they've grown back. The question is one of maintenance. Cutting back trees will increase air flow, and dry out the wall. Someone has already girdled one of the maples I was thinking of cutting down. As things stand right now there are a bunch of great routes at Index that 10 years ago were nice climbs, but now they are totally swamped with tree branches, moss and lychen. You can cut stuff back and still have a beautiful lush environment. In fact someone will have to cut stuff back again and again in the future; that is if folks want to keep the place a good climbing environment.

Up yours beotch, I'm just trying to improve the climbing in a previously (many times) altered environment.

My prime example would be a couple of the big leaf maples at the base of Godzilla, and some of the vine maple by J gardens could be pruned back.

There are only a few trees that need to die.