kukuzka1

mount garfield is a mountain not a crag

add the direct 2 pitches to dorado needle sw butt. their good

LAME. you could at least have someone sprinkle styro crumbles to imitate spin drift

what a great campspot your lying around on, with a little stream running through it. sweet

beckey says theirs a x-country route that turns off the main trail at the bridge to hel basin? is that it? pg 243

winters a commin

welcome, nice job. good work out

its a cold picture[winter]

true enough. love it here

yer right off white, its more like a 1/3. and thanks for blowin my cover

sorry Edlinger should of been more clear, i was talking about i-b and comments made by Rad a few posts ago. also their really is no easy way to get on top of the NNB to rap bolt it. it would probibly be more work than ground up

another item might be because the established style had all ready been set on garfield[doorish/preiss/ect..] and the wall had been climbed clean. not the same line but on the wall, and with plenty of gear placements when needed.

To me that wall has always been a symble of fear and the wild cascades since i fist saw it in the winter of 89, makeing my first summit ever[main pk]if you ever wanted to test yourself and have an adventure, this wall would always be here. just a 2hr hike away

you can make the rib quite technical but you can also avoid the diffulcuties

this is the most stupid debate ever.

yes, at a bulge/overhang near the top of the chimmney i led a fairly fun pitch out left[climbers]and up, then pretty much headed towards the summit[sw]. it was a fun combo other than the chimmney [more of a narrow gully]we climbed right next to each other[no rope]so we wouldnt knock stuff down on each other

did that traverse and dike chimmney was the crux. scary. we traversed just before the top of the chimmney via some fun stuff

I wish someone would repeat the doorish/farnham route. but not me, im to busy fucking around with my new computer[lame]

gracias

mr hands or anyone. does their route top out at the end of the diffuculties or does it summit?

since theirs a bailout at the halfway you can get away with one rope but ya gotta bring crampons? for that. also depends how versed you are in down climbing and how much over-all risk your willing to take. other than that, one rope is fine. unless someone gets hurt and it starts raining, then your going to wish to god you had two ropes, but theirs so much pro on that climb you could build anchors anywhere and eat your rack. of course this is the long winded version

word

roger strong and co. did an 8 pitch route on the butress but i dont know if they topped out? said it was quality.

common sence should be your guide

Billcoe i did write the last line of that qoute but i also wrote how its just a fairytail and could never happen. ive never said to close any route, anywhere. and this probibly will turn into a 27 page tyrant which no one changes their mind about how/where/when to place bolts. but at least were talking about it. the cacades have had a long history of climbers that for the most part have respected the un written rules of bolts in the wild.