Some of yall don't realize a good thing when it's smacking you in the face. I still remember my first backcountry trip to the North Cascades. I had never heard the word stoke, but when I saw white horse mtn for the first time , I was alpine hammered. Any time I'm fortuniate head back for a trip, It's just like Christmas morning all over again. Cascade nay-sayers...get in touch with your inner child.