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Yeah, I've tried that one. Turns out that it depends on who else remembered what as well. I always favor my story, it seems.

"a good start!" to a non-memorable evening. Ah, two day ago...

So basically, shits bigger out west. Cause where I'm from a half rack means 12 and, well... I really don't know anything about hunting. I was serious, and shits bigger out west.

Are there not six "points" on that phorh point? I'm no hunter either, but maybe ya' all can explain...

and, that picture is awesome.

Ah don' hunt no mo', but Ah kin still kownt pert'near good. Whut am Ah missin' he-yah? Yeah, no shit. BTW that looks pretty standard all curled up next to teh six pack...

I feel that way all the time...

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SPOKANE WA 811 AM PDT THU OCT 18 2007 ...TWO STRONG STORMS TO BRING MOUNTAIN SNOWS AND STRONG WINDS BOTH TODAY AND FRIDAY.. A PAIR OF STRONG EARLY SEASON STORMS WILL BRING TWO ROUNDS OF WINTRY WEATHER TO THE MOUNTAINS OF NORTH WASHINGTON AND NORTH IDAHO. THE FIRST STORM WILL ARRIVE THIS MORNING. A SECOND VIGOROUS STORM WILL TAKE A SIMILAR TRACK ON FRIDAY. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST SIGNIFICANT BOUT OF HEAVY SNOW COMBINED WITH STRONG WINDS FOR MANY LOCATIONS THIS SEASON. WAZ042-182315- /O.CON.KOTX.WS.W.0005.000000T0000Z-071019T2200Z/ EAST SLOPES NORTHERN CASCADES- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...LEAVENWORTH...MAZAMA...TWISP...WINTHROP 811 AM PDT THU OCT 18 2007 ...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 PM PDT FRIDAY ABOVE 3000 FEET.. A WINTER STORM WARNING ABOVE 3000 FEET REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 PM PDT FRIDAY. SNOW WILL DEVELOP IN THE MOUNTAINS OF THE EAST SLOPES OF THE NORTHERN CASCADES DURING THE MORNING. SNOW WILL OCCUR AT MOST ELEVATIONS...WITH A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW IN THE LOWEST VALLEYS...DURING THE ONSET OF THE EVENT...HOWEVER SNOW LEVELS WILL SLOWLY RISE THROUGH THE DAY...REACHING 3000 FEET BY LATE AFTERNOON. MINOR SNOW ACCUMULATIONS ARE POSSIBLE THIS MORNING IN THE VALLEYS...INCLUDING LOCATIONS NEAR MAZAMA...PLAIN...AND LUCERNE...BUT THE HEAVIEST AMOUNTS OF SNOW WILL OCCUR ABOVE 3000 FEET. LOCATIONS NEAR THE CASCADE CREST WILL RECEIVE ANYWHERE FROM 4 TO 8 INCHES OF NEW SNOW. ADDITIONALLY SOUTHEAST WINDS OF 20-30 MPH IN THE MOUNTAINS WILL PRODUCE AREAS OF BLOWING SNOW. THE SNOW WILL TAPER OFF DURING THE EVENING TO SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS...BUT WILL RETURN BY EARLY FRIDAY MORNING WITH THE ARRIVAL OF THE NEXT STORM. THIS STORM WILL LIKELY DROP ANOTHER SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOW ACROSS THE MOUNTAINS...HOWEVER THE VALLEYS WILL SEE PRIMARILY RAIN. HAZARDOUS WINTER TRAVEL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP ALONG THE NORTH CASCADE HIGHWAY WEST OF MAZAMA THROUGH THE DAY...AS WELL AS LOCATIONS JUST EAST OF STAMPEDE AND STEVENS PASS. THE SNOWS WILL IMPACT PERSONS WITH RECREATION INTERESTS THROUGHOUT THIS PORTION OF THE CASCADES. A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. STRONG WINDS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE. THIS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS OR IMPOSSIBLE.

And check out paradise . And how bout da hood? And how bout the baker forecast? If that doesn't get you going, check your pulse.

Yeah, we've been talking about this. A couple of weeks ago. Keep hope alive.

That fits T-Line to a "T". Buy a fusion pass and get Skibowl too.

Did you put some shoe rubber on that peg leg or what?

Trip Report That's a few days old, but you get the idea.

1 out of 105 aint bad... If anyone hasn't experienced it, early season in CO is NOTHING like a normal ski area opening day. There is typically a white strip of death made of man-blow (a combination of man made snow and surface hoar) with bare ground surrounding the entire fiasco. See for yourself Everyone who goes for the opening day ritual has one option, thus madness ensues and there are many collisions. I must admit, I partook in the festivites while I lived out there for 2 years, but the novelty wears off after your 3rd beer and 2nd run, so you go to the parking lot and wish you lived somewhere that it actually snowed (just kidding, have to give the CO folks some shit since most of them think that out west is nothing but mashed potatoes and rain). It is something that everyone should participate in at least once so you can appreciate the naturally-fed openings that we have here and the bountiful snowpack.

That wiki link was child's play, check out this shiz I tried to teach myself about differential equations one day

Look Yeah, but it wont be anything like that!

So you want to compare: a marathon solo linkup (which utilized various styles of climbing) a ground breaking FFA of the world famous rock climbing route. the FFA of any line on El Cap proper and a heinously difficult single pitch sport route. Why not throw in a few bouldering achievements and some aid and we can go for most sickest blah blah of all time? This is destined to be an argument about ethics and personal preference, of which there is no escape.

You should clarify what it is that you are trying to do. Are you talking about ski mountaineering where the emphasis is on the descent? Or are you talking about approaching more difficult alpine routes, where you will take your skis off and climb semi technical terrain? In the latter case you probably only need a slippery stick to cartwheel your way back down in the afternoon glop. If you actually want to enjoy the descent, and your emphasis will be on long vertical drops with (hopefully) good skiing conditions, you will be much happier if you get a good pair of AT boots and some mid-fat (80-90 mm at the waist) skis with some dynafit bindings. Your AT boots will be fine for climbing most of the glacier routes in the PNW, but if you want to get busy on some mixed terrain and/or real steep glacial ice, you may want more of a ice climbing/mountaineering boot. Read Sky's article under the "Articles and Resources" tab entitled "Backcountry ski gear primer". He talks about different methods and gear that suit different aspirations.

Yeah, I realized that the article was old, I was more after the definition. That's a good link you have. I'll have to actually read that whole thing now! yeah, I know it doesn't gaurantee a phat year, but it doesn't hurt either!

Here is a good article by Mark Moore (NWAC)that has graphs of most of the major ski areas in the NW and their snow pack during El Nino years vs. the raw average and El Nino averages, I didn't find one for La Nina years. Here is an article from NOAA, forecasting a La Nina and giving an operational definition of La Nina (about 1/2 way down the page). Here is the latest operational SST anomoly chart, which shows the equatorial pacific well within the definition. A La Nina event of at least moderate seems probable.

If only it were two months from now and that thing came east a couple hundred miles! They're forecasting a 963mb low by the time it maxes out. Wont affect those of us who don't live right on the coast, but it sure is fun to watch!

Agreed. They are calling for higher freezing levels than initially forecast. There are a lot of dynamics that will affect how this thing plays out. You're right that a typical La Nina track would take it in from the NW, not SW-W, my point is only that this kind of weather at this time of year, considered in conjunction with all time low SST in the Pacific, strengthens the indications and predictions for a strong La Nina year overall. Which makes me want to do a snow dance. See ya out there!

Gotta look at the whole picture. It looks to me like the original forecast was pretty good. The jet is still showing a track brushing AK, then down and up past OR. I'd much rather see that then a classic Pineapple Express moving straight out of Hawaii. Tuesday-Wednesday should be exciting!

Props for going back the way you came and finishing after a scary fall.

All the pros are saying classic La Nina. In September the lowest average tropical SST (sea surface temperature) on record (57 years) was posted. This of course is an indicator of a very strong La Nina pattern. We should be in for an exciting winter weather season. I hope y'all bought your passes early and stored up some time at work!