pink

that's beautiful

why is it that god can judge but we can't?

thanks mattp

what's the name of the guy who used to own it? i want a copy for my office wall

you didn't, but that's the spirit. show me some more wrath you little sinner. sin your little heart out and then drop to your knees and all will be good.

i'd like to see a copy of that agreement. i wonder if it is public domain?

well maybe there is some clause about closing the rock period. climbers are a user group just like hikers.

matt, i don't disagree with the closure. it's not a matter of working with the climbers. it is a matter of fact. i love birds/nature i'm a frickin trad climber FFS. to bad the climbs are considered to be part of that original deed. hey matt, do you know the name of the private owner who deeded the property to the state and know if any family members could be contacted?

mr. matt, i'm a big fan of the rangers at beacon and if you take notice, i spoke nothing of the rangers and don't think they closed the rock to begin with. the rangers just enforce the rules the last time i checked. also, i was the one who stated that yes the falcons get pissed when you get near their young, but so do a lot of animals. you just said that the birds get spooked in general and i thought i might add to that by saying i have had different experiences being every situation is different, and i am pretty cued in on the situation at beacon being i used to climb the rock a couple hundred times a year and i'm being modest when i say that. i don't think the audabon society has it in for climbers, but the boat dock offers some pretty easy viewing of beacon rock. hell i should be a gold member of the audabon society with the glimpses i have been privileged to. btw, i don't disagree with the closure at this point. i disagree with the trail being open being it passes right above the nest and you can throw debris down into it. it's just more inconsistent government bullshit that sad to say i becoming tolerant to. and matt would you believe that climbing used to be a use pattern out at beacon before they found out the birds were there. the birds had been there for about eight years before the biologist ever got wind of it. i climbed there two/three seasons with the birds and they didn't seem to mind. just saying.

Thanks for the heads up. By the way, I saw a Peregrine in the parking lot next to my office the other day. Cool bird. I've recently learned a little more about their habits and a guy from the Audubon Society convinced me that the fact that they nest in urban Seattle, or even that they could get used to hikers on a nearby hiking trail, does not mean they won't be spooked or even mortally stressed by rock climbers. It is all situation dependent and it could be the case that the closure at Beacon is broader than it needs to be but there is no easy way to know. Good luck with the monitoring, Joseph. the falcons don't become stressed when they are used to the climbers, they get pissed when you get to close to their nest and they will crack their own eggs because the use of ddt has made their eggs weak. " *DDT was originally created in 1873. Only when its use as an insecticide was discovered in 1939, however, did it come into widespread use. The scientist who made this discovery was awarded the Nobel Prize in 1948. After World War II, it became especially popular due to its effectiveness against mosquitoes that spread malaria and lice that carried typhus. The World Health Organization estimated that 25 million lives were saved because of its use. Problems soon surfaced, however, as many insects began to develop resistance to the insecticide. It was also discovered to be highly toxic to fish. Because it does not break down easily, DDT builds up in the fatty tissues. Animals that ingest it, carry it for some time. It takes an animal eight years to metabolize one half of the DDT it consumes. Birds, like the bald eagle, ingested DDT after eating contaminated fish. The DDT caused the bird's egg shells to be brittle and thin and to break easily. Eggs often were broken in the nest when the parents sat on them during incubation. This was one of the reasons populations declined to dangerous levels. DDT was banned in the United States in 1973, although it is still used in other parts of the world. Birds that migrate to other continents are still at risk." primary source: University of Oxford, Department of Chemistry i like the part how the guy was awarded the noble peace prize for discoverd the use for this shit. fucking scientist matt, i climbed around these falcons for years at beacon before they found out they were there. the birds used to fly up and sit 10 feet away from me and just check me out. they like any other animal including humans get freaked when you get near their young. if human activity really stressed them out mortally they wouldn't build their nest underneath busy bridges with only a few feet separating them from heavy traffic. the audabon society would love to replace your activity with theirs, a bunch of blue haired bird watchers waiting to croak. all of beacon rock should be shut down just not the south face. one day me and my partner rapped down to the ledge where they nest and i threw down some rocks from the hiking trail . the rocks landed in and around the nest, but yet the trail still remains open. why? well because beacon rock state park wouldn't be much of a state park if that trail was closed. it's all about government validated positions, IMHO.

when jesus christ was hanging from the cross he looked up and said,"forgive them, for they know not what to do". btw bug, you should change your name to "nats ass".

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could be, does merlin wear a windshirt?

muffy, arern't you always feelin fiesty.

nice dude

domo-kun

hey look, it's don juan in a diaper.

i don't think you have a choice, i think it's gravity that sucks in this matter.

you just can't do it

hey tvash, aren't you going to be late for sumo practice

the problem is getting me to leave let alone come.

yeh, but we found a way to make it all about sex.

i'll concentrate on you crossing your legs instead