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That's why we have appeals.

Flying a 747 is easy. I flew one at the Boeing Field simulator right under the Golden Gate Bridge. Then I flew it off the landscape and under a mountain. Then the screen went dead, and the system engineer got kind of mad.

Palin has some significant shortcomings that Fox will soon find out in a most expensive fashion. She can't get a coherent sentence out, for one, primarily because she's dumber than a rock. O'Reilly, Hannity, et al can, and they aren't. Second, most welfare cheats have a better work ethic. Again, the existing folks at Fox do, by all accounts, work hard. There are more shortcomings, but those two should be sufficient. Fox will fire her the first year.

I give her less than an season and even Fox will fire her dumbshit ass. Double LULZ!!!

Palin ain't running for nothing cuz there ain't no money in it.

She's going to ruin Fox's journalistic reputation LULZ

I would never solo anything I've climbed before. It's beneath me.

Of course, I mean that in the very best sense.

It's so much easier to simply accept one's mediocrity than to invent a bag of artificial handicaps, self labeled as 'style' or 'ethics', to provide excuses for same. It's also more graceful to accept that whatever you accomplished when younger will likely be improved upon by those who follow. In this thread we see a couple of local yocals who weren't even well known during their peak in the small pond that is Washington judge the world's top climbers by nothing more than a bag of excuses for their own former mediocrity and current state of embarrassingly graceless aging. They are the unquestioned authorities on the subject in a rarefied association with a total membership of 2. I've seen 14 year olds do a better job of poser-powered shit-talking.

This case is not about one man and his right to vote. The 9th circuit's decision was a historic finding of systemic discrimination in the entire criminal justice system. Minority communities do have higher crime rates, but even when the data is normalized for this, there is still a 50% difference across the board in arrest rates, eligibility for bail, conviction rates, and severity of sentence, between whites and minorities. Two comprehensive, long term studies produced these glaring statistics. The state didn't even bother to respond. No one would argue against what is patently obvious to everyone involved in the criminal justice system. The judiciary recognizes that it is, appropriately, the weakest branch of government, given its insulation from the democratic process. Such decisions are messages to the legislature that there is a constitution problem they need to address. I wonder if the original troller a) doesn't understand the nature, scope, or purpose of the decision or b) believes the studies presented to be bunk and believes there's nothing wrong with the criminal justice system or c) is suggesting that minorities continue to be treated far worse than whites by the criminal justice system.

Call it what you want, but Armstrong and company didn't really walk on the moon in any honest sense of the word, what, with all those simulations and prior missions n shit. What a waste of time. F'in posers.

Sounds like "seige climbing" by another name...But hey, that's how YOU did it and of course you know what's best for everyone else. And hats- climbers shouldn't wear red hats, because back in the day you and your friends wore blue ones. Boooooo!!!!!! I sure wish I had been around in the Golden Years when mobs of climbers at the crags harassed those who didn't climb the "right way". Yeah, I did climb in the Golden Years, and I never saw anyone climb that way, nor do I today...and that would include Don's proteges! One of the more ridiculous pieces of irrelevencia I've read, even on this forum.

Oh, speaking of Kumbaya, I gave the sermon an a Unitarian church this morning. True story.

They never miss an op to post them, either. Some CC commie mentions single payer health care and out come the concentration camp photos with a Stalin caption (Um...didn't Stalin actually beat the NAZIs?) CHEERIST, its old before it starts.

Yeah, the whole human misery photo thing. I find them disturbing, and couldn't imagine what motivates people to go the extra distance to actually post them. I mean, isn't searching for and downloading them quite enough, already? "OH, just making a point, myan." Yeah, right, ya sick fuck. They're like the psycho kids we all knew in school who'd pull the wings off flies, then turn on you when you called em on it. I'd hate to browse their Flickr accounts. No FKin thanks, Mr. Bundy.

Or, if you really want grotesque, Pamela.

I dated a chick in college who was fascinated by all that little-boys -in-the-freezer shit. She knew about em all. Kind of akin to Billcoe and his exploded face photo collection. There's a turn-on there somewhere. Personally, that crap does nothing for me. I consider it brain pollution. What I find more interesting is the apparently widespread emotional need to have killed someone who's so obviously off their rocker. Do psychos awaken that little bit of psycho in some of us 'regular' folk? Kind of like tuning a guitar with another guitar. If your strings are wound tight enough...

Wuhll...if that scumbag ate all the guy gays, how do you explain Elton John?

WTF kills most domestic violence victims, a huge percentage of the murder rate we are, after all, partly talking about here? Yeah, that would be the gun Dickbo bought to 'protect the family' with. GREAT FUCKIN IDEA.

We all probably know rape victims. I do as well. Rape is horrifically common. So, what's the suggestion? In the example given the criminal justice system failed. In the examples I know of, there were never even any arrests made. What is the point of the post? Rape is bad? Gee...OK. Death penalty for rape? Some rapists get light sentences or get away with it so there should be no rehabilitation in the criminal justice system...which would lead to what? less rape? I doubt that very much. I find myself wondering exactly what relevance such obviously emotional ploys have to any real discussion about whether or not this state should have a policy of execution.

It's also important to remember that in a majority of capital cases, the victims and perp know each other. In many of those cases, the victims are actually part of the problem and provocation. There can a long time feud between perp and victim...gang violence comes to mind...do we really want a system where the 'victim' can use the state to continue such feuds? As another example, do we want an abused woman who has murdered her abuser (not condoned, mind you...get a fucking divorce already) to have her fate decided by his family? We all like to think of capital cases as being just like those on the cop shows: clear bad guy, innocent victim, but in a majority of cases, it's not that simple.

Killing itself could be considered cruel and unusual. One need not compare it to the more imaginative medieval tortures to define it as such. Countering one poster's argument, execution is actually not just more expensive, but several million dollars more expensive per case than life in prison. Having victims determine punishment would fly in the face of a democratic system as well as violate the equal protection clause, given that punishment under such a system would most certainly not be consistently applied. One conviction gets a few years, an almost identical conviction gets death. Not good. Furthermore, families are in no way authorized, empowered or governed by the electorate. Judges, in contrast, are either elected or appointed by elected officials. Finally, families are not, and should not, be privy to the defendant's history and circumstance; they're not qualified, and I would go further as to say completely unqualified, given their obvious emotional involvement, to weigh these factors in any reasonable manner. Such a system, in the end, would likely become a reality TV style media circus, rather than a deliberative process to determine innocence or guilt and, if the latter, appropriate punishment.

The man has always been certifiable, and I love him for it... ...but I don't want to grope him for it.

several organizations are mounting a campaign to end the death penalty in WA because they consider it cruel and unusual, unfairly applied, and too often condemns the innocent. Should the death penalty be ended in our state?

Those states would all be in the Bible Belt, of course. Gotta deal with all that teen pregnancy somehow, In Jesus' Name!