jclements

Something in the news a while back about a treadmill desk, walking slowly... Why I gotta get a job outdoors.

Thanks for the info update, always more to learn. In Kiss or Kill Twight cryptically mentions in a paragraph on nutrition that he thinks he could have shaved 12 hours off his Mount Hunter push, but he wouldn't elaborate. Perhaps this is the key...

I may be wrong, but I understand maltose, being two glucoses linked together, is more evenly absorbed for purposes of strenuous exercise than simple® sugars such as fructose and glucose, and doesn't have as high glycemic response. Maltodextrin is basically a string of glucoses linked together in the same bonding pattern as maltose, (hence the malto-). Brown rice syrup is made from malted rice, is high in maltose, and is what makes up Clif shots. I use it to make my own cheaper shots, (mix w/ a little choc. syrup, put it in a squeeze tube) though it doesn't taste so good, but where I use it I'm not visiting for gourmet experiences. Following Twight's advice, I've found staying away from solid foods, proteins, and more than just a bit of fat , sticking to dilute energy drink like Cytomax and maltose/maltodextrin gel shots, works great during the day's exertion at high altitude for sustained energy, is easy on the stomach, though some queasiness is to be expected at altitude. A 16 yo mountain newbie I was with on Adams recently stopped to eat a roast beef sandwich or something, and along with the gatorade (fructose, basically), did a mojo on his stomach that turned him back just a couple hundred feet from the summit. I've seen this wall come up on folk several times, myself included, with those who eat only pop tarts, snacks and whatnot up in the mountains, and get taxed. The gel shots work, though I am wary of using too many that have caffeine (which seems to in a good number of them). On a few occasions I've given them to a fellow climber/skier when they were waning who hadn't used one before, and they reported a little pickup, though of course this is anecdotal. I think the advice about keeping the energy drink diluted is good as well; A bottle of Cytomax that had been mixed a little strong is what finally set my stomach off at the top of a CO 14er - descent wasn't pretty.

I think Freddy's has the basic soy powder for about $3-4/lb. I mix it in with Body Fortress whey, about $16 for a 2lb can. I use milk and or/soy milk.

Okay, say a bolt holds a fall. And... seem to have lost my train of thought there.

Leaving PDX area Monday afternoon, 7/30. Looking to condition, so will attempt to tag Thielsen one day, head up to South Sister next, return Wed night/Thursday. Anyone? Good opportunity to get to know an alpine partner, endurance-wise on easy terrain.

Leaving from PDX Mon Jul 31. Stay at campground somewhere around Diamond Lake, climb Tue, then relax in camp with beer and grilled something (I'm rolling a micro-vacation into this). Drive back Wed. Ridealong/Partners?

Hood SS next Wed, drive up Tues. Got NWF pass. Partner up!

Looking to get up early, ski descend possible from below the summit. I have alternate Wednesdays free to climb, other days with enough lead. I can move Hood up couple days if necessary. An exp. alpine mentor is a plus. I'm in shape. Shit together. John C

Anybody up for a brew somers on Monday night (yes THE night to party)? Will be around downtown.

John, sorry about my lame PM earlier. I'm also sorry I never got to be a part of this, I am still ready to go every other Wednesday, and I promise I won't bag it after two times (unless there's something really unsavory about what you're doing). Maybe I'm not ready for the dark arts of your secret stash, just give me a learning curve. I will bring beer, coffee, cured meats, Pez, whatever, to anybody wants to take an area newbie around. Anybody wants to just get together for a drink and talk climbing just shout.

Check your pm's...

You have anything else going? I'll be off Wednesday... PM me. John C

New to PDX from Colorado, advised to look into this thread to hook up. Some tech class 5 exp., plenty 14k peakbagging all seasons, no glacier but some angled snow, have harness, shoes, leather boots, no ice tools. Can someone advise what I need to join in here. I have Sundays through Tuesdays and alternate Wednesdays off, so any kind of alpine or cragging trip these days I'm in if you'l have me. Want to bag some peaks eg Hood this winter or spring if anyone's planning. Cheers, John

I am new to PDX area, I have Sun - Tue and alt. Wed off, can handle 5.8 trad, have some gear. I'm ready to go all winter. Email me...