John, sorry about my lame PM earlier. I'm also sorry I never got to be a part of this, I am still ready to go every other Wednesday, and I promise I won't bag it after two times (unless there's something really unsavory about what you're doing). Maybe I'm not ready for the dark arts of your secret stash, just give me a learning curve. I will bring beer, coffee, cured meats, Pez, whatever, to anybody wants to take an area newbie around. Anybody wants to just get together for a drink and talk climbing just shout.