rob

I wonder if al qaeda confirming his death will be enough proof for you. So what do we have here? a) Bin Laden's wife admits he was in the house b) his daughter witnesses his killing c) the U.S. President and major military officers say they've seen the body or photos d) if he isn't dead, it would be easy to disprove their stories e) burned out helicopter in the grounds of a secret compound f) Pakistani military confirms a battle took place g) U.S. military is capable of doing what they claim h) our enemy confirms his death And yet, somehow, believing all of this means that I'm willing to "accept ANY story from my government" without "even questioning." ANd what data do we have supporting the "it's a hoax" camp? The U.S. government killed a bunch of native americans once? Buckaroo, the new kevbone? Stay tuned!

So now even Al Qaeda is confirming his death. How much more proof do you guys need? lol, buckaroo: the new kevbone? Stay tuned!

weak smear that doesn't show your better side. If Pakistan had caught up with OBL then disappeared the body, I am sure you wouldn't think of buying their story hook line and sinker. Omg i trust my government more than i trust the Pakistani government????? Now I'm gonna lose my liberal cred.

So are all the birthers.

besides, how could we have killed bin Laden now, when he was killed in 2001????? Hmm????

I guess we could all demand OBL's long-form birth certificate. I mean, why won't he release the death photos????? WHAT IS HE HIDING????

I understand why they were mad at America, too, and I accept the validity of that. However, I do not believe the bombing of the WTC was a valid output for their anger. Do you? And celebrating that sort of attack is quite a bit more different than celebrating the capture of the guy who planned it. IMO. Bringing up carpet bombing of Europe or whatever is a neat logical distraction, but we're not talking about the relative merits of WWII Allied tactics (which may or may not have been "just as bad" or whatever). We're talking about this specific instance. I remember after 9/11, I wanted to kill him myself. And while I accept that his death has not made us any safer, and even though it took 10 years, I'm still glad it eventually happened and I think that every guy on the team that got him deserves free drinks from each of us for the rest of their lives. It's cute to make philosophical arguments about the relative moralistic equivalences of two opponents in a war. But just because they have similarities doesn't mean they are both "equally right" or whatever. This is the same logical trap agnostics fall into.

Really, you can't tell the difference? I get your point about "how do you really know who is right" and it's a fun philosophical dead-end that leads to all sorts of logical games, but in this one case, I think there should be enough data to give you at least *some* idea which one is most likely right.

+1. I wish we could have killed him twice.

Considering that the Obama administration itself is one of the biggest supporters of the Republican platform in general, you'd think this wouldn't come as too much of a surprise.

DOn't you know? It's different when democrats do it.

Schlepping heavy loads around is like 90% of the work. Welcome.

They hunt me constantly; I'm their favorite meal.

What's the speed record on this route?

This story made me postpone my vengence against the human race for 1 week.

LOL. Irony.

all those poor rich guys :cry: How do they even manage????

MAGIC!

+1 vote for summer climbing trip.

spray is what keeps this board from turning into a fudgepacking group of wankers, like another local NW hiking site that will remain unamed

ba dum chsssh

Yeah, like kevbone OOOOH, over the line?