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They're an expansion team...the seals don't mind being clubbed anyways, no matter what Paul Mccartney says.

I always thought our best radio stations were the American ones...I guess the grass is always greener. It's nice that the Seahawks are finally out of that 20 year 'rebuilding' period they were having.

You guys should watch the BC Lions, forget your Seahawks...BC won the Grey Cup this year after beating the Nunavut SealBashers.

Wow, is that Stevie Wonder on keyboards?

Thanks for the stories. It's interesting to hear more of the history behind these routes & events.

Nice to know I'm not the only person who picked up on that...I sent off a letter to the editor but didn't see it or any other letters on this topic published. The fact that Slesse had been climbed before the plane hit the mountain seems to have escaped the author 'a writer living in Toronto.'

I've only been on the Nesakwatch side but that whole valley has kind of an aura about it. I think it would have it anyways but with the knowledge that there was this tragedy it adds to that feeling you get. Some places just have that atmosphere about them.

Don't know if anybody reads the newspaper but their was an interesting article in the Focus section of Saturday's paper. Unfortunately you have to pay to access the online edition so I can't reproduce it. It's by a person who lost her father in the crash and efforts to protect the site. See what you think of the first and last sections of the article: If you searh for "Mount Slesse" in the Internet, you'll soon see that people just love to climb this imposing peak in the Cascades Range near Chilliwack BC. Most call it a challenge and wax lyrically about it's natural beauty, but some also admit that they "hope to see the propeller cairn," and suggest that their fellow climbers "be respectful of any body parts you might find." I suspect their real motivation is tied to the shocking news I awoke to one morning in 1956." and the end.. "Let us hope now, finally, all those people who persist in climbing Mount Slesse never lose sight of the fact that they are entering an eternal resting place for 62 souls who deserve to be left in peace." I thought at the very least it denigrates the efforts & motivation of those who choose to climb Slesse, as I'd hope to one day. Ryan

I found the pics of Britney...poor K-Fed Apparently there are also some nudey pics of Lindsay Lohan floating around out there...I will have to investigate this further.

You know I don't think I've ever seen a picture taken of the other side of her face...strange, she must have a big mole or something on that side.

Yeah 5.12 still seems pretty elite when you're plugging in gear...I've heard of a few 5.14 trad routes but few & far between.

They usually drink Jager & smoke Players Light. However they are secretive beasts, rarely seen outside of certain small settlements in the interior.

Cougars!? It's the Sasquatches you gotta watch out for

Yaarrr, rum, sodomy and the lash be an 'onourable tradition, pirates be after your family jewels.. 8D

That's a good point actually...ok that settles it then, I'm never going to the gym again.

This is all very disgusting but the gym is still my best chance of meeting a sober woman so I'm gonna keep goin no matter what...

Thanks for the ideas & advice, winter travel is still pretty new to me so I'll be taking it easy but it is nice to have 1 or 2 objectives beyond just ice climbing. Now I need everything to freeze up

Absolutely nil...Harvey seems safe but I've heard that the area around the Lion is pretty dangerous. I plan to take a course possibly through Canada West but minimal avi hazard would definitely be a consideration. P.S. That TR is what's inspired me to try Harvey!

Hey all, any suitable winter climbs round the lower mainland where I won't get into too much trouble? I like the looks of the ramp route on Mt. Harvey & it seems reasonable. Also maybe the NE butt of the Lion but that might be a step up. Anything else around that has similar access, good for a newbie to cut their my teeth on? Howz about Chilliwack area? Ryan

Yup, that was my buddy & I hacking away. Thanks for sharing your rope with us. Fun Fun Fun!

I was there yesterday and it was pretty fun, the blizzard certainly added to the atmosphere. If you go via the Heliotrope ridge trail to the glacier lookout there are some nice slabby walls right where you hop onto the glacier. As a rookie myself I thought they were ideal. Supposed to rain all week so probably going to be another dump of snow up there.

I'd noticed these guys were kind of phasing out their climbing section. Everything had been on sale for ages but it wasn't moving. So I chatted to the manager and he's quite willing to make deals. I got 4 BD screws & saved about $30 off the MEC price in total. Not a huge savings but I'm not a very good negotiator. Anyways they've got a bunch of ropes, helmets, rock shoes, draws, some tools & crampons a sh*t load of Camalots. If you're looking to rack up maybe check it out & do some old fashioned haggling. Ryan

Sweet ....did you guys go up the red line & down the green one? That's a long slide.

That look on his face is priceless.

Seems like the glacier there is a good place to play around, I've never been. Anybody wants to go I'll drive (coming from Vancouver), got my own crampons & tools, not much in the way of pro though. I'm a total noob but heh, we all gotta start somewhere. If any compadres from south of 49 were interested I guess we could meet up at the mountain. Let me know