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Again, I would encourage anyone who THINKS they have an opinion on this to actually READ the proposal. To me it looks well thought-out. They are trying hard to reduce noise levels in surrounding neighborhoods, and have minimal or positive impacts on the surrounding parks. If you have read it and come to an educated stance on the topic, I may disagree with you but I would respect that you know what you're talking about. I see NO EVIDENCE that the UW ROCK WOULD BE DESTROYED OMG (gotta love caps). The Pacific Interchange would require the acquisition of 0.1 acre from the UW Open Space and 0.18 acre from the Waterfront Activity Center. It is also explicitly states that no structures will be torn down in this area and that the canoe house will still be standing, although underneath a ramp which could definitely be seen as a negative impact.

You logged in and commented already! That's amazing! I'm still reading the proposal. You must be one of them speed readers.

I looked it up on google maps, you can see it pretty plainly due south of the southeast corner of Husky Stadium. Looking at this map it's not perfectly clear whether the rock will be in the way. Does anyone know the facts here? If the rock IS in the way, I'd urge anyone to consider the whole proposal before knee-jerking your protest. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made to improve things for the majority. Look at the traffic improvements, look at the park space that will be allocated as part of the plan, don't go off half-cocked. Blind NIMBYism is what keeps anything from ever getting done in the Seattle area.

I don't know exactly where the rock is on those maps, in relation to the "UW Open Space". Can someone point it out in this pdf?

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When you buy something, you need to know what it's for and how to use it. It's important for the end user to be educated. Responsibility lies on both sides- one side has to provide the info and one side has to absorb it.

What... what does this mean? You find news boring? Dude gets murdered, ho hum? The yammering of the guntards was more interesting? Are you just being an ass?

how many feet is that? YOUR METRIC STOKE IS INCOMPREHENSIBLE

At the risk of interrupting this excellent spray with something relevant: Remains Found On Mount Pilchuck Identified It was indeed Brandon Kempf.

Have you guys been to jury duty? I served in Seattle and from what I saw, odds are good that you will never even get the opportunity to answer a question that would disqualify you. In my 2 days, I didn't even get put on a panel.

completely unreasonable, this is like hamburger helper including those extra packets of stuff you have to stir in at a DIFFERENT time

My partner and I climbed Town Crier while two of our buddies did Green Drag-On. We also did it in a two-day format and to the best of my recollection the answer is no. We fixed three pitches on TC (which is even with the first 2 pitches of GD) and to get down/up we had to do two rappels. The first full-length to the big ledge, then a short one to the ground. I recall that one rope would get you pretty close to the ground, but close doesn't really cut it.

F*** the government too! F*** all!

Scandalous polar bears?? At least you have a boat.

You know how sometimes, maybe when you're at the beach, you see two seagulls just flapping and squawking away at each other endlessly for no apparent reason? That's how you gun debate doofuses sound.

You could be in the arctic with a polar bear looming.

If there is an argument that is weird- insurance is not required in Washington, this is a fact. Minimal insurance is cheap. If you finance a bike you probably need full insurance. As an aside, please don't finance a bike. This is "probably" a bad guess. I believe most if not all new bikes have emission control equipment on them, both of mine have. There is "probably" more info here if anyone wants to dig.

If all you care about is transportation, you can get a very cheap small motorcycle (or dare I say, even a scooter?). I believe many 250 cc engines can get upwards of 70 or 80 mpg. No motorcycle insurance required in Washington but if you want it, it should be cheap because motorcycle insurance climbs sharply with engine size. Even if you want something with more style or power, it'll save you on gas. I've owned 600 cc and 1100 cc bikes that have both gotten above 40 mpg.

Why does that make any sense?

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no you won't, but have fun!

so how's the protest going?

So what is the real selling point of the link cams anyway? They cost twice as much as a C4 and have 50% more range. When are you going to put these on your rack instead of some traditional cams? Do you want to do this on an alpine climb? Or would you plan to use one to supplement a full set of other cams? They just seem like a novelty, fiddly and expensive to me. And the plastic wigs me out.

I never placed one while climbing, but when I placed it on the ground I thought it was gonna get stuck.

ABC Huevos! They are cheap and work. And for cams, I like DMMs for the same reason. In general I think beginners should go with cheap gear, if they really want to buy their own. Use other people's stuff if you have more patience, because maybe right now you don't even know how two cams can be different from one another. I don't think a beginner should buy a link cam. They're expensive, require more care and are a little trickier to use than another cam.