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Aha, I was waiting for someone to say that. And to that, I have prepared this pithy response:

I'm doomed! I never liked liver, anyway.

Who is this Otter Nodder, who says what we otter?

Oh yes, you otter, Otter. It's the only way to and not feel .

FWIW, I've found 3 Tylenols (acetaminophen) works well for headaches. Vicodin is better, but you gotta make do. And next time, don't drink so much!

Good point.

Olyclimber is a myth? I've always suspected.

Right. And therefore, it's *not* useless. The book, by the way, ain't that great. It got poor ratings/reviews on amazon.com. I just got a free copy, so thought I'd read it.

So, why does oly-olympia climber live in Seattle?? That is so inconsistent.

Olyclimber will do that to ya!

Yeah, what he said.

But that's true of many, many things in Western society. Just about everything we do or buy is fluff compared to the struggle to survive that millions face every day.

I'm reading a book, "Fatal Mountaineer," about Willi Unsoeld, and the author, a non-climber journalist, keeps referring to the "uselessness" of climbing and mountaineering. On one hand, I can agree that climbing is useless to general society--it doesn't solve any of the world's problems. OTOH, climbing does a lot for/to the individual climbing--obviously. It tones your body and mind in a way possibly particular to climbing. Climbing isn't any more useless than the Tour de France or any other sport, really. Also, stories about climbing also are inspirational to armchair climbers, so you could say climbing contributes culturally, as do other sports. If I didn't climb, I doubt I'd be pursuing a Ph.D in cellular biology and finding a cure for cancer. It's not distracting me from higher pursuits. This also brings to mind my grandfather's question, when I told him I was going climbing: "What do you do when you get to the top, just come down?" He doesn't get that the going up is what it's all about. Thoughts? (Notice this is not in the Spray forum, eh.)

Wow, that is so...beautiful, and moving. It almost makes me...cry.

Cool pix!

Oh yeah, nothing.

OMG.

OK, I'm through with this trashy sexual innuendo stuff. How about those Mariners? What was this thread about, anyway?

That's what I figgered.

Yeah, not really relevant, but the headline's funny.

Hey, don't make me be explicit here...

Hey, *I'm* a trashy blonde! But you're on the wrong team, so you're safe. I won't hit on you. (At least, not in that sense. )

Oh, entirely. Although, if they had the right package... (I'm a UPS trainee).